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2201 Pershing Apartments Now Leasing

by ARLnow.com | April 12, 2012 at 9:55 am | 10,085 views | 217 Comments

The large new apartment complex on the corner of Arlington Boulevard and N. Pershing Drive in Lyon Park has now started leasing.

2201 Pershing, as the complex is known, is billed as a luxury apartment community with 188 residences and 31,000 square feet of ground floor retail space. Rent starts at $1,810. New residents are expected to start moving into their apartments in July, according to developer Equity Residential.

A press release claims “easy access” to the Courthouse and Clarendon Metro stations, though in reality both are about three quarters of a mile away.

2201 Pershing is located adjacent to Arlington Blvd., one of the major arteries of the Washington, DC area, with easy access to Courthouse and Clarendon Metro stations. The buildings feature 34 different floor plans designed with modern and upscale interiors, ranging in size from 629 – 1,440 square feet, with the option of a balcony or patio. Each apartment home boasts 9 foot ceilings, unique interior finishes of ceramic tile and hardwood floors, stone countertops, extra-wide cabinetry and wood flooring, as well as spacious walk-in closets.

Designed to deliver a lifestyle of convenience, 2201 Pershing is a smoke-free, pet-friendly community with expansive amenities including a 24-hour concierge, clubroom, fitness center, and media/theater room. The highlight of the property is a two-level elevated courtyard with extensive landscaping, fire pit, outdoor kitchen and grill area, cabanas, and outdoor movie theatre wall. Residents will also enjoy a newly renovated outdoor pool deck redesigned to offer a resort-style experience with new lounge furniture, umbrellas and custom built pergolas.

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  • SteveP

    3/4 of a mile is about a 15 minute walk (or less if you walk briskly). That is an easy walk in my book. There is a hill to deal with (Barton St) on the way to the Courthouse, but if it’s the same distance to Clarendon, it can be avoided by going there (Pershing to Washington to Highland).

    • bobco85

      Anything over a 2 minute walk is not easy access for luxury apartments, but for regular apartments, being within 20 minutes walking distance of a metro is a luxury!

      • CW

        A 15 minute walk to go down broken escalators and find out that a train is being offloaded at EFC and you will have to wait 25 minutes to cram into a functioning one is not convenience.

        This is why I ride my bike.

        • JamesE

          I walk from Ballston to Clarendon/Courthouse all the time because of metro’s incompetence.

          • novasteve

            I often walk from Metro Center to Clarendon/Courthouse myself.

        • bobco85

          Same here for going by bike, but sometimes I like to walk when I’m feeling lazy.

    • Michael H.

      A Capital Bikeshare station will be installed near the corner of Washington and Pershing, maybe 4 blocks away from this new building. The bike station may even be in place before the first residents move in this July.

      CaBi will make for a very short trip to Clarendon and the Orange Line. However, there might be issues with the station being empty in the morning rush hour and full during evening rush hour. If that occurs too often, the station could be expanded next winter. Or another station can be added nearby. There will be a group of additional stations where locations haven’t been determined yet.

    • novasteve

      I love the barton hill. I can genuinely tell people I have to walk uphill both ways because it’s a valley.

    • Another Dude

      That ‘hood is crap and the building is next to a virtual freeway. What a way to build em, CPHD! And, CPHD, you’ll get to pile on the secret ghetto you’ve been growing at Buckingham. Shoulda told Arlington Forest and Ashton Heights what they were in for.

  • pedant

    “Residents will also enjoy a newly renovated outdoor pool deck redesigned to offer a resort-style experience with new lounge furniture, umbrellas and custom built pergolas”
    So there was an existing Pooldeck?

    • Greg

      It was renovated from a mud hole.

    • Southeast Jerome

      yeah- Renovated is a horrible term to use if you are describing a brand new building.

    • HighViewPunk

      There might have actually been an existing pooldeck. It looks like they may be mooching off of the pool associated with existing appartment community directly behind the new construction.

    • G Clifford Prout

      I read that too. Made no sense. Did they build it Monday and change it out Friday?

      • Southeast Jerome

        OK I figured it out.

        Equity owns the apartment complex behind it (Sheffield Court I think).

        I bet they renovated that pool area for use by both complexes.

        If you look at google maps, you can see it and it makes sense….

  • CW

    Thanks, but no thanks. I’ll take 1960′s poured concrete over 2012 particle board any day.

    • Good Grief

      Agreed!

    • Arlingtonian

      Absolutely, same here

    • Terry

      Agreed. These things look terrible from the outside.

    • JamesE

      Don’t enjoy the sound of your upstairs neighbor peeing?

      • Tabs

        I used to live in the downstairs unit of Bedford Court (or whatever) off Brookside Dr (Washington Blvd).

        I rued the day the woman upstairs got a boyfriend. He used the powder room in the morning. Steady, loud stream right above my head.

        • nom de guerre

          Sounds like a virtual yellow shower.

    • drax

      Highly unlikely that this isn’t poured concrete rather than brick-over-stick.

      • CW

        What makes you think this building is poured concrete?

        • drax

          Just looks like it. I’m no expert.

          • ACI

            “looks like it”. Yeah. Sure.

          • CW

            From the few times I drove by, I want to say it is not, but I’m not certain either. Wasn’t paying attention. The one on 10th sure isn’t.

      • Carol_R

        I drive by it on the way to work every morning. It’s brick over a wood frame. It is not full masonry construction. They didn’t use concrete block. It is a wood frame, with plywood tacked on and then a brick facade. Not real study in my honest opinion.

        • MC 703

          Are you a structural engineer?

  • Swag

    Whew. For a while there I thought we’d be faced with a critical shortage of luxury apartments here in Arlington.

    • NPGMBR

      LOL ;-)

  • DSS10

    Bed 1 Bath 1 SqFt 694 Please call $1,895

    700 sqft for $1,900.00, are rentals that tight that they will this building with out discounts? Maybe it’s my Scottish heritage but that seems a wee bit expensive for the sqfootage….

    • Swag

      But it’s “luxury”…

      …somehow.

      • JamesE

        GRANITE COUNTERTOPS!!!!!!!

  • DSS10

    should read:

    that they will this building fully rented with out

    • Southeast Jerome

      what?

    • och aye

      yer still making nae sense laddie!

    • Maria

      Made more sense the first time :)

  • Corey

    Over $1800 – an amount that would pay two mortgages in any normal city – for a shoebox almost a mile from Metro.

    The Rent Is Too Damn High

    • Josh S

      It’s what the market will bear.

      • CW

        The Market Bears Too Damn Much

        Better?

        • Josh S

          I guess.

          Do you complain about hot weather in August, too?

          • Corey

            Unlike the hot weather in August, the rent being too damn high is a man-made, fixable problem!

          • Southeast Jerome

            Corey- you can move to another city where rent is cheaper.

            And guess what. Your pay will be lower too.

          • Corey

            You’re right, I could! But the tradeoff doesn’t have to be as stark as it is.

          • Southeast Jerome

            Why does it not have to be as stark?

            I hear there are plenty of 1 bedroom apartments in Knoxville for $900 a month.

            Maybe you can move there and enjoy that.

            Wait- no one wants to live there b/c it sucks. Thats why its only $900.

          • drax

            The Heat is Too Damn Hot.

          • Corey

            It doesn’t have to be as stark because there’s plenty of room, and plenty of desire, to build more apartments closer to the Metro in Arlington! Look at how fast substandard buildings like this one fill up, and you’ll get some sense of the very real shortage in housing in North Arlington.

            In a free market, developers would build to demand. But they can’t. Anti-free market regulation (height limits, strict zoning rules for neighborhoods like Lyon Park) stops the shortage from being addressed. More units lead to lower housing costs at the margin, allowing people to spend their money on other, more productive things, which is better for the economy.

            In the current state of things, (disproportionately) younger people pay astronomical rents because (disproportionately) older people want their neighborhoods protected and their property values artificially inflated. That leads younger people to either a) not spend as much money, a suboptimal result for the region or b) move somewhere else, also a suboptimal result for the region.

          • drax

            EVERY community in the nation has restrictions of some kind, Corey. Ours are very likely much more permissive of high-density buildings than most suburban communities. Most don’t want any part of it.

          • Southeast Jerome

            OK- see my below posts on another THREE more developments being built. You are standing on quicksand with your argument about developers not building or being allowed to build.

            And as a renter- you dont own anything. People that own should by default have a say in the zoning laws. Thats how this country was founded.

            And I am sorry you dont make enough to live the life you want in Arlington. I made it work somehow, as do thousands of other people like you.

          • Corey

            Ah, so only landowners’ voices should count. What is this, 1810?

          • Josh S

            How?

          • Chief SittingCondoLandDeveloper

            How, squaw!

          • Jar Jar Binks

            How wude!

      • Carol_R

        I don’t know. They may have a problem renting them.

    • JDSmith

      It will lease up before the first coat of drywall mud is on.

      Besides, the County is handling all development of the affordable housing. Let the developers reap the free market benefits. Hats off to the great synergy we have going in Arlington.

      • Corey

        The fact that you’re probably right about the building being at capacity before it’s even finished should make it completely obvious that there’s a housing shortage in Arlington, one created by (anti)-development policies and attitudes

        • JDSmith

          I don’t think using a macro term like housing shortage is the right way to approach it.

          Arlington is desirable but there is a balance between density and infrastructure. The balance is very favorable now which is what drives prices up.

          I am actually a little concerned that too much new housing is on the books for Arlington.

          • Southeast Jerome

            yeah- after this one comes online there are still the following:

            1. founders square
            2. VA sq development
            3. 10th & Washington Apts

            Those 3 are all fairly large (150+ unit) developments. Should start to see some 1 month free deals come back once all of these places are in lease up mode, another two years or so away though.

          • JDSmith

            That VASQ one is frickin ginormous. My concerns are more about population density and access to services. I really don’t see too much downward pressure on pricing because there is just so much demand for inside the beltway.

            That is my biggest gripe with the people saying we need to build more housing to lower costs. I doubt they realize just how many new units the market can absorb before pricing pressure kicks in. My guess is that number is so high that the infrastructure and basic government services would start to choke.

            The other possible downside is too rapid growth on the housing supply which creates a temporary pricing dip, and that will just clog things up quicker.

            The balance between population and services needs to grow slowly and more or less equally on both sides.

          • CW

            Yep, yep, yep. There is never going to be downward price pressure. They will stop building long before that.

            I think what is going to normalize the market (at its already high prices) is the cost of commercial, not residential real estate. Once NW D.C., Arlington, and the other close-in usual suspects reach the point of saturation, the job growth is going to dry up as companies look elsewhere.

          • Corey

            More people want to live in North Arlington than there are places to live. That’s a shortage. The result is astronomical rents like these.

            If North Arlington were built to capacity, or even close to it, I’d be with you. Not much to be done in that situation.

            But, it isn’t built to capacity, not even remotely close! Allowing a freer market for developers would lower rents, strengthen the local economy, keep more people in Arlington rather than losing them to further-out burbs or transiency, allow more people to take advantage of the County’s great schools, increase the tax base, blah blah blah.

            It doesn’t have to be like it is now.

          • Are you sure??

            So, Mr. Wizard – where do you put the schools in your new 500,000-person county? They are already overcrowded, and you propose taking away all available land to build your new apartments. How about the water supply? Power? Larger sewage system? Run-off from nothing but postage-stamp green areas? There are plenty of reasons that it DOES have to be like it is now.

            You could also find a roommate or two so you could afford Clarendon (which addresses both the cost and keeping demand low side of things). Or you could move to Manassas where there are plenty of $900/month apartments, take the train into Crystal City and metro up from there.

          • Every Mayor of NYC Since 1880

            *Chuckle*…not enough water, power, schools, sewage…cute…

          • Corey

            Revenues grow with more residents.

            I’m not suggesting we open up the entire county to high-rise development right away; there’s a way to phase-in higher density so that it doesn’t overwhelm municipal services

          • Southeast Jerome

            Corey-

            Dont you know. Revenues dont grow.

            We republicans want the lower the tax rate, every year, until its zero.

            Even with zero tax rate, we’ll have more revenues.

            Its a spending problem!

          • Josh S

            Yeah, I think your capacity argument is leaving out the infrastructure. Sure, there is plenty of *land* available upon which to add density (assuming tearing down existing buildings). But as our current school capacity crisis is illustrating, the current infrastructure may not be able to handle a dramatically increasing population (and that may be one clue as to why growth is only allowed to increase so much – it’s actually responsible government…..).

          • drax

            “and that may be one clue as to why growth is only allowed to increase so much – it’s actually responsible government”

            Hey, wait, you’re thinking things through instead of blindly reacting. That’s a violation of the rules.

          • Vicente Fox

            Well, we certainly know that capacity on the Orange Line is limitless, so bring it on!

          • TuesdaysChild

            One of the main reasons Arlington is popular is because of the limits on growth. If you are unhappy with prices, look in other areas of the city.

          • Corey

            Since the areas with astronomical rents are the denser ones, I’m not sure why you think “limits on growth” are why Arlington is a popular place to live.

          • Southeast Jerome

            Arlington rules. Keep the rent too damn high so we dont have to share our bikes and shopping carts with Corey

          • Carol_R

            Arlington is built way over capacity. It’s awful and it’s becoming a high rise concrete jungle.

          • Corey

            Perhaps a neighborhood in Fairfax or Loudoun would better suit your tastes?

        • drax

          That’s silly, Corey. This apartment building is one of many new, higher-density living spaces being built here. Calling this county “anti-development” is whacky. It has grown immensely in the last decade or two.

          If there is a shortage, it’s caused by demand exceeding space. By pursuing dense, smart growth development, the county is relieving the pressure, not adding to it.

          • Corey

            On the whole, it isn’t anti-development, as you say it’s much better than most other places. That doesn’t mean it couldn’t be better.

        • Josh S

          Gosh, I just don’t see how any reasonable person could look at Arlington’s growth over the last decade or so and say there is any sort of “anti-development polic(y).” The cranes and cement trucks have been pretty busy around here.

          I won’t necessarily dispute a housing shortage, but I think that absent turning over our development processes to China, I don’t see how supply can be provided any faster.

          But in general, the end result of your analysis is probably right. Since demand remains very high, the available supply is easily bid up to what seems to be very high prices.

        • R. Griffon

          I can think of at least half a dozen high-density projects under way right now in the Clarendon – Courthouse area alone. Where are these “(anti)-development policies” of which you speak?

          • drax

            No kidding. Arlington has been actively pursuing an aggressive, award-winning strategy for allowing growth while also preserving and enhancing quality of life for all. I thought that was obvious.

            http://www.epa.gov/smartgrowth/arlington.htm

          • Corey

            I mean, have you ever noticed that development very abruptly stops one block to the north and one block to the south of the R-B corridor, and the city turns into Leave-It-To-Beaver suburb land?

            Again, Arlington has done a better job than most. But those areas, if they weren’t covered by regulations prohibiting building certain kinds of things, would almost certainly be high-rise apartment buildings. That makes rent suboptimally high.

            Now, am I suggesting knocking down the entirety of those neighborhoods? Not at all. But why not extend mixed-use zoning one block further into the neighborhoods along the corridor? That way, if developers want to buy, and residents want to sell, further development can take place (note the fully-voluntary nature of such a transaction)

          • Carol_R

            Mixed zoned housing is awful. I don’t want it in my neighborhood.

    • coco

      You do what I did when I was a wee twenty-something. Find a group house rental…or move farther out until you can afford it. There was a reason I used to rent in Clarendon in the 90s instead of DC. I couldn’t afford DC.

      • Tabs

        I lived in a leafy area of Ballston–big townhouse with 3 other 20somethings. I had the master bedroom with bath and I think I paid $500.

        • Maria

          I’m paying almost $1000 for that exact same set up now.

          • JamesE

            $1k is a good deal for that area.

          • Maria

            Yeah, and it’s 4br (similarly sized) & 4.5 baths, so it’s a far better value than a lot of other places nearby.

          • coco

            that’s because the area isn’t what it was like in the 90s. It is more in demand now. If you want cheap you are going to have to go a little bit outside of your target area which is what I did when I couldn’t afford Dupont in the 90s.

          • Maria

            Yes, I agree. I just figured I’d illustrate her point with a specific example.

        • coco

          I think I was one of your roommates! I paid $400.

  • Ballstoni

    Traffic around here is a disaster now that they got rid of the 10th street bridge.

    • R. Griffon

      A necessary (and temporary) evil. That intersection at 10th (along with the one at Courthouse) was a deathtrap during rush hour.

      • NPGMBR

        And its currently being re-developed. Looking forward to see what its gonna look like when its all done.

  • nunya

    at least there are views of the fort. and all the military guys.
    and of course the days inn.

    add that to the sales brochures.

    • Corey

      Seriously, there’s nothing, nothing around there. You have to walk almost a mile to get anywhere at human scale.

      If you live in this building, you may as well live in Fairfax. Not sure what’s more shocking – that they think they’ll get this much for these apartments, or that they’re probably right.

      • BC

        While I disagree with most of your anti-market bs, I agree with this. This is really no man’s land (at least for now). At $1850+, that’s full-fledged Clarendon/Ballston/VA Square rates without hyper-close access to metro and the retail/commercial/restaurant accessibility. Timing will be okay – I think another year and they’d be competing (unsuccessfully) with the to-be-built development by VA Square metro.

        And after that, that is closer to the Z Burger that will likely lead to a downfall in my coronary health.

        • Corey

          I’m actually pro-market (I’m not asking for “affordable housing”, I’m asking for more housing). But thanks.

        • CW

          @BC – you might want to re-check Clarendon/Ballston/VA Square rates…your figure might have been OK 3 years ago…

          • JamesE

            Last I checked it was like $2.2-2.3k for a 1 bdr rental now. Great for me, painful for renters.

          • CW

            Yeppers.

          • Maria

            There are still some places in, Ballston at least (didn’t really look in Clarendon/VA Sq), for less than $2000 for a 1br, but it is becoming less and less common.

          • Maria

            Oops, comma failure:

            “There are still some places, in Ballston at least,”…

      • CourthousetoBallston

        Actually, there is a retail building right across the street from this building. In there, there is a Chinese takeout and a delicious Mediterranean food place (there’s a few other things in that retail building as well). 7-11 is a few blocks away, as well as Z-Pizza, and Vocelli’s is on the same street! Plus don’t forget EAT Bar and Tallulah, both also up on Pershing/Washington blvd.

        So, there’s nothing there?

        • Clarendon

          Has anyone tried that Chinese place (Eastern)? I go to that area regularly for Astor Mediterranean and wonder if it’s worth trying the place next door.

          • Southeast Jerome

            Astor is awesome and they have a patio too. Hopefully they can get rid of that Days Inn. It reminds me of that crappy motel over by Marios in VA Sq.

          • Arlingtonian

            Eastern Carryout? I’ve had it a few times; it’s just okay … good for quick cheap meal, but far from fabulous

          • CrystalMikey

            Easterns is good takeout.

  • ArLater

    The 1 bedroom prices are high yet the 2-3 bedrooms are reasonable *for NoArl*.

    With that said, if I am living (and paying) to live in that area I rather be more along the main drag instead of having to hike almost a mile anytime I want to go grab a bite to eat or a drink. There isnt too much right outside the door to the best of my knowledge there…

    • Arlington Village

      The Pike is a much better option–and it took quite a while for the Halstead to attract renters.

      I look forward to AV rents going up, and hopefully our housing values with them.

      • boom

        the people with apartments facing arlington blvd will be haunted by the sound of wrecks at rte 50 & Pershing

        • Tabs

          And the traffic, and the 21-gun-salutes, and the rockets red glare etc.

      • JohnB

        +1

      • G Clifford Prout

        Arlington Village needs to think about getting some better amenities. The pool is nice and the grounds are lovely, but that’s about it. No party room, no gym, no fios, storage and laundry rooms look like a mediaeval dungeon.

        • Arlington Village

          Verizon took one look at the logistical nightmare ($$$) that Fios installation would require, and ran screaming. They tried to say “if every household signs up, OK; if not, subscribers will have to cover those who don’t sign up” (out of 600 homes). Seriously.

          I think the laundry rooms are great, and the storage areas are just that. Where do they look like a medieval dungeon?

          Plans are in the works to renovate the common room by the office, but it can’t be a “party room” because people live right above.

          A gym room would be great, but again–where would you put it?

  • Noisecomplaint

    How long before the noise complaints to the cops and county board about the “annoying music” coming from ft myer??

  • rick

    This and other equity properties will have nonsmoking clauses in leases. A note in the elevators @ liberty center says your next renewal/all new leases will have that provision. Thoughts?

    • JohnB

      Fasiasts.

      • JohnB

        Oops. I meant:

        Fascists

        • JBalls

          Fascia-ists! The last line of defense against the Soffits!

          I don’t think any of those details were included on this poorly constructed building.

    • Bluemontsince1961

      Shhhh. Don’t tell N.S.

      • Rick

        I think this is a topic best discussed in the forums so I’ll take it there.

        • Bluemontsince1961

          I just saw it.

    • dan

      pretty shady to ban current tenants from smoking in their apts when they re-up. i smoke occassionally and never in my apt but think there should be a part of the property outside you can go burn one when you need to. most of these say no smoking even in your car in the parking lot.

      • Bluemontsince1961

        I agree as I am also a smoker (cigarillos and an occasional Ashton or H. Upmann). You may want to discuss further in the forum: http://www.arlnow.com/forums/misc/equity-apartments-banning-smoking-on-their-properties/

        • Repooooooooblican

          10th & Washington will have a designated “doobie garden” as part of the democrat county board approved transfer of density with Founders Square, whose tenants can’t inhale due to clearance issues.

          For reference, doobie gardens are popular at Kentucky dive bars. Some ArlNow commenters have expressed a desire for more dive bars.

          Full circle.

  • sheffield court

    The picture of the dog park and pool on the website are defiantly from Sheffield Court

    • M

      Who are they defying by posting the pictures of the dog park and pool?

      • Southeast Jerome

        I believe Equity owns both properties. So they can do whatever they want. I wouldnt be surprised if they merge these 2 properties eventually into a massive development. I actually heard something about that not too long ago.

      • Maria

        I enjoyed that.

      • Repooooooooblican

        LOLOL

        • Puzzled

          Laughing out loud out loud?

          • Maria

            Super loud.

  • E-love

    Nope, No, the Pike is not a better option….Nothing going on here folks, Nothing to see or do…Just keeep movin…yep, Clarendon has everything you need…just head right back over there…there’s PLENTY to do for all you transients….

    • Southeast Jerome

      all you transients. If you arent from Arlington, get off my pike!

  • dan

    57 walkscore…….. thats some fairfax s–t right there

    • Tre

      +1

  • R. Griffon

    It’s definitely viewed as a “low-rent” location by people who know the area. Right next to 50, across from the Fort, a mile from the Metro. And the Days Inn across the street isn’t doing them any favors.

    Good luck getting that kind of rent. More power to them if they can. Maybe it’ll actually take, and mark a turning point for that area for the better.

    • drax

      It’s about to become a higher-rent area, isn’t it?

    • JDSmith

      On the other hand, you will have one of the easier commutes into DC if you drive to work. I think they are marketing to the 5-Series crowd that do not know what a Smart Trip card is.

      • Southeast Jerome

        I’d love to be in that crowd!

      • Theakston

        I agree, and they will be sitting in standing trafffic from the second they leave their apartment. Still there’ll probably be a ground floor latte shop so they have something to drink while they fiddle with their i-phones

    • Repooooooooblican

      All the non ivy northeastern private school kids will eat this location up, not knowing any better. Southern frat kids rule, Villanova grads droool….

  • Wiz

    One of their key advertising points should be “across the street from Astor Mediterranean”. I’m sure Astor’s business will really benefit from this.

    • Tabs

      Decent chiropractor upstairs too.

      • location location location

        in a perfect place considering evey time I drive down that potholed street it puts me in traction!

      • nom de guerre

        I suggest that a therapist/psychologist also open up a practice in that building because I have PTSD induced flashbacks to roads in Iraq and Afghanistan when I travel along that stretch of Pershing Drive.

  • Justin

    I think the problem Corey is refusing to see with the rents inside the Beltway, is for lack of a better term, the “artificial demand” from so many college students, interns, and low-level political employees who are bankrolled by trust funds or their parents teet and are able to live in these $2,000 1 bedrooms by themselves. In a normal, private sector oriented city you wouldn’t have this artificial demand driving prices up to such a high degree.

    • Southeast Jerome

      why is it artificial? are these people not real humans? somehow- they are paying their rent right?

      is it artificial in new york if its the same story? or boston? or LA?

      those cities have rents just as high, or higher, than here.

      trying to explain away WHY the demand is high doesnt justify the rent prices to be lower my man.

      • Justin

        “is it artificial in new york if its the same story? or boston? or LA?
        those cities have rents just as high, or higher, than here.”

        If here means “Arlington” then your statement is factually inaccurate.

    • JamesE

      I own a 1 bedroom by myself, I pay for everything by myself, the number of trust fund children are a fraction of a percent of the housing market. The high rents are simply a result of supply and demand, it is really not that hard to grasp.

      • http://purple.purple.com/purple.html PUP

        +1

    • ArLater

      Please share what “normal, private sector oriented city” you are referring to. And if the market isnt so “artificial” there perhaps you should move there and let a college student have your apartment.

      • Justin

        Normal would be like Chicago, or Charlotte, or Philly. My point is, there are a ton of people who are able to live in DC and the inner suburbs who, based on their actual level of productivity, shouldn’t be able to. This drives up rental prices for everyone to an absurd level and crowds out the people trying to make an honest living. It’s an unusual situation.

        • SouthPikeGuy

          Hmmm. A merit-based tier system for determining where one lives. Most productive in the inner rings closest to DC, less productive in the outer rings.

          How do you propose we measure the productivity?

          • JamesE

            Thunderdome

          • Southeast Jerome

            Corey- you forgot that you changed your username to Justin.

            Anyway.

            Would I blow your mind if I told you I was a Georgetown student, lived in Arlington, and, wait for it, PAID MY OWN WAY!

            What a concept!!!!

            Maybe we can have all the people in Arlington get together into the Arena and do a Hunger Games to see is who is most deserving and productive to live in the inner circle.

            And all the people who were lucky enough to be well off from family money and work at non-profits or other non-high paying jobs, they will just have to move to Manassas with the meth dealers. They obviously arent productive enough to deserve to live in the inner core.

            Please- do yourself a favor and never talk to anyone in real life. We’ll all be better off.

            Thanks,
            Everyone else

          • Justin

            Back in the 70s, probably.

          • Justin

            I don’t. I’m not saying anything can or should be done about it, I’m just saying it helps to explain the bizarre pricing in this area. There’s a good reason NYC rentals are so high: lack of physical space combined with many of the world’s highest earners. Neither of these conditions exist in nearly the same way in the DMV, yet the prices are exorbitantly high. Something must explain that, and of course the answer is demand. It’s not demand from normal, working citizens though, even the high earners. Perhaps a crappy building like this would start at 1400 and not 1800 for a 1 bedroom if that were solely the case. The rents here are pushed up to such a higher degree by people who are able to live in fantasy worlds. i meet them all the time. They live in Ballston and Clarendon and their parents pay for them to do so. It’s the same for probably half the political class here who only get their positions through nepotism anyway, and then are further boosted by their parents’ incomes. Do you deny that’s the case? This simply doesn’t exist to such a high proportion of the population in other comparable cities like Philadelphia or Boston or San Francisco. It’s just a fact.

          • Sandy

            I don’t know a single person who lives in Arlington that is not earning their own way. And I know people who live all way up by Chain Bridge to all the way along the R-B corridor. Houses, condos, and apartments.

          • Justin

            I guess you’ve never met any Georgetown or GW students.

          • The Market Will Bare All

            First of all, throw Philly out of your argument. That city is just plain odd. People only live there by birthright or court order. Second, I agree that many government workers are overpaid. That does NOT include most on the hill, though. Now the twist: your argument is dumb, Justin, because the pricing in this area is not at all bizarre. The building in this post is really not that different from the “more betterer” ones closer to Clarendon to those who are moving in. Especially if they’re rentals. Proportional to the “average” rent of anyone you probably know in NYC, the typical rent here makes sense.

            Markets are not as low viscosity as the ephemeral gas emissions that come from your buttooski, Justin.

          • By the way

            Philadelphia, a city of 1.5 million – every one of them there because of birthright or court order.

            New York City, AMI $80K – world’s highest earners. (DC AMI $106K)

          • HighViewPunk

            As a GW graduate from Philly I’m offended. But not offended enough to be thoroughly entertained by this thread.

          • Justin

            Weird that I can’t reply to the commenters (?) below. Suspicious.

            I’ll just conclude that I find it hilarious that people here will defend their right to pay 2k/month for a generic, poorly built condo in a fairly unremarkable suburb that has no great culinary, cultural or even varied entertainment available. This area doesn’t have the quality of life of Boston, let alone New York, and yet people here want to justify paying Manhattan like rental prices. All for a sleepy city that shuts down at 9:30 pm. It is bizarre.

          • Southeast Jerome

            yeah- definitely shuts down at 9:30pm. thats rooted in reality.

            the bolt bus can take you to Boston or NYC for super cheap Corey- dont let the door hit you on the way out.

        • coco

          huh? Every city has its more affordable pockets. Not everyone can afford Lincoln Park, Soho/Greenwich Village, Georgetown….so you do SouthArlington, MtPleasant, Brooklyn, etc. There are tons of people that don’t sh*t in many wealthy areas—it’s called a trust fund, baby.

      • Neutrino

        Telling someone to move as rebuttal to their argument is a sign of frustration overwhelming reason.

    • Boom! Roasted

      You could argue it’s artificial demand since the high incomes in this area are directly derived from the federal government, which spends far more than it actually takes in.

      If the federal government made pretense of trying to match expenditures to revenue, rents in this area would inevitably drop like a rock. I think the powers-that-be wouldn’t make such a politically disastrous move though, and will continue to erode everyone’s’ wealth via inflation.

      I just feel bad for Americans who aren’t on the Fed gravy train. Not everyone is making 90K by their late 20s doing government work, but everyone gets hit by inflation.

  • Bender

    That really is a life of luxury they are offering here, especially the 20-minute walks and slumming it on the Metro.

    What’s that? If you pay that much and desire luxury, then you will likely not want such inconvenience, that you will drive instead?

    All right! Just what we need — another 150+ cars streaming in and out of that area.

    • R. Griffon

      Sadly true. This will only attract an all-driving, all-the-time crowd, even if it’s just to Trader Joe’s for a bottle of Chuck. So much for smart growth. :(

      • drax

        It’s still smart growth, a little, because it will allow alot more people to drive alot fewer miles.

        And the power of local governments to put smart growth policies in place is limited.

        • The Market Will Bare All

          Trader Joe’s must control demand by ceasing to offer those thai lime chili cashews!!! Down with driving! And parking! Advanced Towing must be transitioned smoothly to a bicycle thievery business.

    • A slummer

      “Slumming it on the Metro?”. Gas is $4.30 a gallon for premium (which is what all those 5 series take). Traffic is nearly at an all-time worst. And jobs are demanding 9-12 hour days with no increase in pay. And you want to drive instead of Metro?!?!

      Hmmm. It costs me $3-5 to get to work and back everyday, no wear and tear on my car. I never sit in traffic where someone can rear-end me. The times I do have to sit for a couple of minutes to let a train pass, I can read, write emails, catch up on work, and more.

      I’ll take the Metro any day over commuting by car

      • Autoexec.bat

        Tell me I wasn’t slumming it on the 10A when I showed up to work with my undershirt soaked from having to wait 45 minutes in August heat. After eight years I decided enough was enough.

        And contrary to popular belief, you do sit in traffic. It’s just a different kind of traffic.

        • cyclist

          That shower at work in the morning is soooo refreshing on a hot August day.

          • Autoexec.bat

            So is the air conditioning in my car.

          • Tobe

            And my cooled seats.

      • Southeast Jerome

        except when someone sneezes in Bosnia and the orange line backs up during rush hour and you are finished.

        if people are working those long hours- they can drive when there is less traffic and dont have to rely on an unreliable metro with poor service in off-peak hours

        • CW

          Ok, that made me laugh really hard.

      • http://purple.purple.com/purple.html PUP

        feel u.

      • Carol_R

        It’s way faster to drive. If the Federal Government was subsidizing their employees to use Metro not that many would. It’s super expensive and not that convenient.

        • Southeast Jerome

          Carol-

          The Federal Government provides significant subsidies to employees for use of Public Transit.

          Please see the “Transit Subsidy” section below.
          http://www.bls.gov/jobs/benefits.htm#trans

          I do believe that as of 1/1/12 the amount was reduced to $120/month, but that is still free money!

          • Neutrino

            My guess is she meant to say “wasn’t subsidizing”.

  • Rustbelt

    Living in the general vicinity of this place has allowed me to observe the development from the ground up. The construction seems so so, but it is all wood and not steel, like most of these places. Seems a big shoddy if you ask me. Also, there isn’t a lot of stuff in the area…true, you have Astor and Eastern Carry-out, but not much else. However, I bet a Starbucks is opened as well as several other eateries in the commercial store frontage of the development.

    I predict that the Days Inn will come down eventually for some form of development. I know that when it was built it was a state-of-the-art facility and I have read that several homes were actually moved so the motel could be built. However, the place has seen better days and seems a bit “junky” if you will.

    IF this brings more money to the area, what is the future of the surrounding complexes such as the Washington and Lee? Will someone buy that places from Alvin Aubinoe and knock it down, or is it protected as well?

    • SoMuchForSubtlety

      The building itself has quite a bit of retail space, so stuff will come.

  • Homeowner

    $1.8k/month for a one bedroom, I guess I have been out of the loop for a while. Suddenly, my mortgage seems like a bargain.

    • Southeast Jerome

      yes- a long while. places in heart of clarendon go for closer to $2000/month.

      • CW

        If by “closer to $2000″ you meant “closer to $2000 than to $3000, in most cases”, then yes.

        • rosslyn

          yeah, this is correct. and two bedrooms are mostly over $3000. it’s crazy.

  • Johan Spetzer

    The price for a 911 GT3 is artificially high because they refuse to build more. I demand they make more so I can afford one.

    • JamesE

      The new 2013 SRT Viper is going to be too much for me, I wish the county would have some affordable sports car programs

      • Southeast Jerome

        affordable sports cars for hipsters?

        • JamesE

          fixed gear

          • Lou

            No brakes

          • CW

            Tesla Roadster = fixie

          • JamesE

            electric cars are becoming too popular for them!

          • CW

            Yeah but it seriously is a fixie…

          • JamesE

            I want to drive one just to see what it is like, 1 gear sounds so limiting, I know they have maximum torque at 0 rpm but still.

  • Stitch_Jones

    I have never been in these apartments. I don’t know exactly how they were built or the details about the amenities. I don’t know the zoning laws or the arguments for and against such laws.

    But I know where the building is. And I know what the starting rent is.

    And therefore – I have very strong opinions that we should argue about!

    Oy…

    • dan

      you have never been inside us and your are judging us

      • Southeast Jerome

        THATS WHAT SHE SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Southeast Jerome

          I still cant believe I didnt get any props on this yet.

    • Greg

      If you looked at the pictures, you would know it’s builder-grade “luxury.” Nothing in there will have the words Sub-Zero, Viking, or Wolf. The artist renderings of the cabinets don’t even appear to be real wood and the kitchen island looks more like a table from art class or shop class.

      You’ve got more fingers pointing back at you.

  • novasteve

    Wow, so glad they knocked down a historic building to build this disgrace.

  • history buff

    yes that paint store and Armands pizza were fine examples of neoclassical urban rococo. While the Royal Lee Bar and Grill was an Art Deco masterpiece!.

    • nom de guerre

      Bring back the Royal Lee! I remember when the GI’s from Ft. Meyer could stumble back across Rt. 50 and through Henry Gate. I didn’t realize that there was anyone else left in Arlington who would remember the Royal Lee since Clarendon achieved center of the universe status.

      • novasteve

        The Royal Lee owner is glad to have retired from the business. He had no interest in starting a new place. Sad they closed down 2 years prior to them even tearing down the building. Could have had another 2 years of that place, though the smoking ban would have hurt business there.

  • nom de guerre

    The rental fees are justified by the fact that Sam’s Corner will provide 24 hour delivery service exclusively to the residents of 2201 Pershing.

    • JamesE

      Not likely as the delivery will be intercepted by Spanish gangs

      • nom de guerre

        Karzai will be riding shotgun.

    • drax

      Between 4 and 4:07 on Wednesdays.

  • Abe Froman

    On the high side, you can always get a hooker across the street at the ultra classy Days Inn.

  • ajj

    Check out the 2201 Pershing specials. Like us on facebook.
    So no- the market could not bear the price.

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