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Moran to Host Immigration Workshop in Arlington

by ARLnow.com | July 12, 2012 at 1:45 pm | 2,100 views | 87 Comments

Rep. Jim Moran (D) will be hosting a workshop for immigrants seeking U.S. citizenship later this month in Arlington.

Called “Pathway to Citizenship,” the event is intended to “assist 8th District residents navigating the federal government’s immigration and naturalization system.”

D.C United coach and former soccer star Jaime Moreno will be the keynote speaker at the event, which is also expected to be attended by Moran, Arlington County Board member Walter Tejada, and representatives from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

The event is being held on Tuesday, July 31, at 6:30 p.m., at Gunston Middle School (2700 S. Lang Street).

There are more than 190,000 foreign-born residents living in Virginia’s 8th District, including some 110,000 who are not U.S. citizens, according to 2010 American Community Survey data. As of the 2000 census, there were more than 50,000 foreign-born residents in Arlington alone.

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  • novasteve

    You mean this is for illegal aliens seeking to normalize their status?

    Will people with valid H1B visas and tourist visas or admitted under the visa waiver program be able to attend so they can violate the terms of their admittance to the country? No doubt they’ll be getting these people to vote for Obama,and be objecting to voter ID laws because it would stop the fraud these liberals are perpetrating?

    • drax

      No, it says nothing about “illegal” immigrants.

      Nevertheless, if someone who is here illegally is eligible for citizenship nonetheless, that’s the law. You really have no basis for complaining about illegals pursuing legal status by following the law.

      • Tumblebum

        Here illegally. Hmmmmm…………..

      • novasteve

        They have to go back to their own country and apply for legalization at the US consulate where they live, just like people legally present in the US. Anything else is SPECIAL PRIVILEGES for people deliberately violating the law.

        • drax

          Fine, Steve. Then that’s what they’ll have to do.

          This workshop doesn’t give anyone special privileges or a way around the law. It’s just a workshop on how to comply with the law.

          Only a reactionary “lawyer” like you would have a problem with this.

    • Technocrat

      People with a valid H1B visa have the right to apply for permanent residency. It’s called “dual intent”. This is not the case for people on tourist visas or admitted under the VWP.

    • Dee Bunker

      It would be interesting to check to see if all Democrat members of congress are holding these workshops for immigrants in their districts. This is the type of scheme the Obama campaign would come up with to further work on getting the Latino vote. I’ll bet Mr. Moran will also be registering these folks to vote at these workshops. Eric Holder is doing everything he can to clear the way for illegal voters, so it all ties together.

  • Id

    Who is going to bother when there is a cease and desist on deportation?

  • KalashniKEV

    Pursue, Capture, Detain, Deport.

    • CivPlayer

      Explore, Expand, Exploit, Exterminate

  • http://nelsm4517@mac.com Ballston Commons

    Congratulations to Mr. Moran for having the courage to tackle this problem directly. It is a big problem and this is a positive start. Let the chips fall where they may, but it is a good start.

    • BreakPause02

      What is the problem exactly?

      • novasteve

        The problem is how do you get illegal aliens to vote for you without committing voter fraud? Legalization.

        • Hank

          Excellent conspiracy theory! Another tinfoil hat for you, my good man!

        • drax

          So you oppose legal immigration now, Steve?

          • novasteve

            How can you legally immigrate to the US if you are already legally here?

          • always right

            Definitely a good question for the liberals.

          • drax

            No, Steve, I’m asking if you oppose all immigration because you think it’s just a scheme to get Democratic votes.

          • WL95

            Moran arguing in a Moran thread.

          • Hank

            Absolutely this is a scheme. I mean think about the simplicity of it. All you have to do is gather as many immigrants as possible (especially illegal immigrants because they’re very likely to come forward), put them through the long process of applying for citizenship status, wait for the decision, then get them registered to vote, and then BAM!: there’s some more votes for you for the 2016 election. There could not be a more efficient way to guarantee you get re-elected.

          • Having fun yet?

            Hank, that’s an insanely complicated scheme for re-election anywhere, but especially in Arlington. In Arlington, nonwhites are shrinking numerically as well as by percentage of the population, and Arlington whites vote overwhelmingly Democratic anyway.

            The most efficient way to guarantee re-election is to raise large amounts of money from wealthy people and special interests, and then using it to air television ads. That is why members of Congress spend a lot more time fundraising than holding citizenship events.

          • Hank

            @HavingFunYet… I can’t tell if your reply is a sarcastic reply to my sarcastic reply. We need some kind of a font that smirks.

      • http://nelsm4517@mac.com Ballston Commons

        See Steve P’s comment below.

      • drax

        Really?

      • Tumblebum

        I see a problem with the starting time of 6:30 PM. Cocktail time. Could get rowdy. Not the immigrants, (legal or otherwise) the host.

        • WeiQiang

          Clown comment, brah. Freddie’s Crazy Hour starts at 4. Plennnty of time to make the workshop.

        • nom de guerre

          Every number on Moran’s clock is a five.

    • Elmer

      Yep. Takes a lot of courage on Moran’s part to hold a workshop for a special interest group that supports Dems in every local election. And to time the workshop near the election cycle.
      Brilliant!

      • drax

        Right, because it only takes a few months to get citizenship. These people will be voters by Nov. 6!

        Get real, Elmer.

        It’s funny watching the right wing freak out over people becoming U.S. citizens and following immigration law and all that.

        • Elmer

          Drax, Voters by Nov. 6th or not, its a special interest group that supports one party locally with money, door to door, etc.
          That’s fine but spare me the suggestion that this is some new chapter for Profiles In Courage by Mr. Moran.

          • drax

            That’s fine with you? Good. Then why are you complaining?

            Nobody said Moran was a hero for doing this.

  • SteveP

    There are plenty of legal aliens in this country and county who are interested in citizenship. Don’t go assuming that this is a workshop for illegal aliens (though I suspect that will be discussed as well).

    I’ve known several of legal immigrants to go the citizenship route, including my parents, college friends, and co-workers. It happens a lot, and sometimes people don’t know how to start the process or just want more information.

    • drax

      “Don’t go assuming”

      New here?

      • SteveP

        I’m an optimist. ;)

        • drax

          You’ll get over that.

    • novasteve

      how did they manage to get a green card to be able to come to the US in the first place if they didn’t know anything about the process?

      • drax

        Nobody said they don’t know anything about the process.

        The process for citizenship is much more rigorous than for a green card. As it should be. It requires passing tests and filling out lots of forms and stuff like that, Steve. A workshop may be what’s needed.

        But you’re a “lawyer.”

        • always right

          if it requires that much effort….they will choose to stay illegal.

          • drax

            Unless they have a workshop to help them.

      • SteveP

        In some cases, immigration had occurred a couple of decades prior to deciding to become a citizen (I know that I don’t remember everything that I was told or read that long ago). In other cases the immigrants were infants when they moved to the US (you don’t expect them to have any recollection of the process, do you?).

        In my experience these two cases are quite common.

        • novasteve

          Obviously citizenship wasn’t very important to them if they did nothing for decades about it. So why would Moran care? They can’t legally vote for him or Tejada without becoming citizens?

          • SteveP

            I’ve provided the information that I have.

            I do know that you must be in this country for a certain number of years (and be of a certain age? I think the number is affected by the age at which you entered the country) in order to qualify and/or apply for citizenship. I’m sure that you can get information on those items and more if you attend the meeting. Pardon my lack of specificity, it’s been years since my family members applied and the rules may have changed since then.

            As for other peoples motivations about when they apply (beyond when it’s legal to do so), you’ll have to ask them as I’m not going make assumptions (sorry drax, maybe tomorrow). You can always go and ask a few people and see what they say.

      • Bon Air

        Hey Steve

        My wife came here to work on a work visa 3 years ago. She is still here on work visa. We recently got married and are exploring on getting her citizenship.

        Is that okay if she attends this workshop (even though I doubt she will learn anything new)? Or would you want her deported and sent back to Brazil?

        • novasteve

          I doubt Moran will be interested in helping her since she’s legally present in the US.

          • drax

            Who cares what you doubt?

    • South Awwlington

      Walter….Walter…Walter…wake up!

  • PikeLatin

    KalashniKEV are you Slavic Eastern European?
    Are you US and A citizen?

    • drax

      Ask him what the meaning of his last name is.

  • T:GEOA

    DC is Jamie town!

  • DarkHeart

    The Diocese should have no problem replacing Sunday School teachers who won’t sign the pledge.

    • Elmer

      Amen!

    • WeiQiang

      What pledge?

      • nom de guerre
      • Elmer

        That IF you are going to teach catholic CCD (religious education), you will adhere to the church’s teachings in doing so AND that you believe in same.
        That requirement seems pretty obvious to me.
        See today’s WaPo.

        • WeiQiang

          Rog, all. Thx.

          Being raised Catholic and having clergy in my family, one comment: good luck with that. However, it seems a very nice way to accelerate the widening of gap between adherence to rhetorical flourishes and the actual ministering to the flock.

          Will the last altar boy out the door please extinguish the pastoral candle.

          • Elmer

            “Will the last altar boy out the door please extinguish the pastoral candle.”
            I’m sure you know that similar declarations have been made over the past 2000 years of the church but the church has always survived.
            Peace.

          • Rice Queen

            by “extinguishing the candle,” you mean . . . [redacted by the Vatican and Joe Paterno's heirs]

          • South Awwlington

            No Queen. He didn’t say HIDE THE CANDLE!

          • Bon Air

            They will survive and have influence as long as there are parts of the world in rampant poverty with very little education.

            In educated societies, the pews are empty like they have never been before and it is getting worse by the year

            I

          • WeiQiang

            survived … at the cost of how many indigenous people?

  • Aaron

    I think it’s commendable for Moran’s office to help legal residents of the 8th District who want to become citizens to navigate the morass of the federal bureaucracy. People shouldn’t need the services of a professional to file their taxes, bid on federal contracts, apply for a civil service position, or initiate the naturalization process.

  • DeportEmAll

    It will be interesting to see how many illegal aliens flock to this “workshop” for assistance in legalizing themselves. Wonder if ICE will have a presence?

    • novasteve

      Of course not. However the Obama administration will be busy closing down marijuana clinics in California.

      CHANGE!

    • Bon Air

      Illegals cannot get citizenship, unless in some cases if they serve in the military. This workshop cannot help them.

      • novasteve

        They can’t vote either but that doesn’t stop them from voting.

        • drax

          You have evidence of illegal immigrants voting now too?

    • South Awwlington

      I bet they will if you call and tip them off….

  • James Moron

    I might not be there on time as I was recently offered a 0.004% interest rate on my mortgage and I’m supposed to close. Of course, the company has set-up a meeting in my office for the following morning because they have “concerns about a few pieces of pending legislation.”

    I love informed citizens.

    • Marie Antointette

      +1

  • always right

    Is he looking for wife #4? Or is it #5?

  • Marie Antointette

    Let them eat cake!

  • Not Latina

    Yeah, I got a flyer in the mail for this. If they’d bothered to check their target demographic, they’d know that despite my spanish surname, I’m Asian, and I’ve been a US citizen since the day I was born. Great use of resources, Senator!

    • WeiQiang

      pssst, he’s not a Senator. He’s a member of the House of Representatives … the OTHER part of the bicameral Legislative Branch of our Goverment.

      • WeiQiang

        = Gubmint = Government

        • Aaron

          Good thing s/he was born here and didn’t have to pass a test demonstrating knowledge of such facts!

          • South Awwlington

            Right.

        • Elmer

          Government=Gimme’ Gimme’

    • arl resident

      “check their target demographic” – sounds like they did, based upon your surname. that’s why you got the flyer. it’s a mailing list with name and address, not some detailed database of personal information. exactly how do you propose they “check” that list further, call each person and ask if they are really of Hispanic descent? now that sounds like a great use of resources!

      • Elmer

        So ask Drax. She’s the one who used the term “those people” in referring to the Nauk community.

        • drax

          I’m a raging racist! It’s well known here.

    • drax

      Perhaps everyone in the district got the flyer. Or perhaps everyone in certain neighborhoods.

      Don’t assume you were targeted because of your name, or targeted at all.

  • Arlingtonian

    Nice of him to host this but his office may have just mailed the cards to everyone with a Latino last name. Or at least that’s what I’m guessing since my fiance got an invite to this despite being an American citizen from a family full of American citizens.

    • drax

      You’re guessing.

      Go ask a few neighbors with Anglo names if they got one.

      I doubt there’s a list of addresses with Latino last names out there that Moran rented. Since he has free mailing privileges as a member of Congress, he can just send the card to everyone, or certain neighborhoods that are likely to have non-citizens – no need to restrict who he mails to since postage is free.

      Everyone check your mail.

      • Arlingtonian

        So why didn’t I get one, with my Anglo last name?

        • Arlingtonian

          (we live in the same apartment)

        • drax

          I have no idea why.

          Nor do you.

          • Arlingtonian

            I have a better idea than you do, considering that this is far from the first time he’s received this type of mailing when neither I nor any of our relatives or close-by friends have.

            Obviously no one knows anything for sure, but we’re free to offer evidence and speculate all we please.

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