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Morning Notes

by ARLnow.com — November 6, 2012 at 8:35 am 5,048 130 Comments

Voting Begins — Voting has begun in Arlington County and long lines are being reported at polling stations. This Election Day, Arlington voters will cast ballots for President of the United States, U.S. Senate, U.S. House of Representatives, County Board, School Board, proposed amendments to the Virginia constitution and four proposed county bond issues. The polls are open from 6:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. A list of polling places can be found online or by calling 703-228-3456.

Perfect Season for Yorktown Football — The Yorktown High School football team ended the 2012 regular season with a perfect 10-0 record. The Patriots will face a first-round playoff game against Jefferson on Friday night. In other high school football action, Bishop O’Connell and Washington-Lee both finished the season 5-5. Wakefield finished the season winless at 0-10. [Sun Gazette]

On Election Eve, Moran Goes on TV With Son — On the eve of the election, Rep. Jim Moran (D) appeared on Fox 5′s 10 p.m. local newscast with his son, Patrick Moran, who’s currently the subject of a criminal investigation over a video that allegedly shows him giving advice to someone planning to commit voter fraud. The elder Moran called his son an “idealistic kid” who said something “stupid.” Said Rep. Moran: “I still love him and I’m proud of him.” Patrick Moran, meanwhile, explained that didn’t fully comprehend the scheme that the undercover video producer was explaining to him. [MyFoxDC, Associated Press]

Back to Drawing Board for Reeves Farm — Arlington County’s efforts to find a partner to help restore the historic Reeves farmhouse have been fruitless. County officials say they were unable to find a suitable partner, and will now likely “go in another direction.” A group that wants to transform the farmhouse and surrounding property into a “learning center” says it will continue to try to persuade the county to work with them. [Sun Gazette]

  • Hokie

    Hour and a half line in Fairlington- at least it was inside. Some of the other lines- like at Courthouse- are crazy outside!

  • Brian

    Lines are more than an hour and a half long in Rosslyn and mostly outside.

  • gerry

    line was literally blocks long at patrick henry elementary. will it be better in the evening?

  • arlgirl

    Always long lines in this very political and educated area in the morning as people go to work. Best times to vote are mid-morning and early to mid-afternoon.

  • SteamboatWillie

    I arrived to vote at 6:30 and the line at St. Agnes was well into the parking lot. I voted just after 7:15.

  • W-L Football Fan

    Despite their 0-10 season, kudos to the Wakefield team for their efforts and for showing up week after week!

    • PreVote

      +10 Hang in there Wakefield footballers.

      • 120

        These kids definitely kept a positive attitude all season despite the losses and showed up ready to fight every game. Hang in there fellas and lets turn it around next year.

  • gerry

    so evening voting will be just as bad as early morning?

    • Wayne Kubicki

      If four years ago is a good predictor, no….many polling places in Arlington were relatively empty later in the day.

  • PreVote

    Line to vote at Barcroft on Saturday was an hour and a half at 4pm.

    • Whoah!

      Are you from the future?

      • Parkington

        You missed the “Saturday” part.

      • Louise

        LOL!

  • PreVote

    You wonder how many love connections can be made when people are standing next to each other for an hour plus.

    • DrTchock

      Actually, nobody wonders that.

    • hey now

      would you like a look at my sample ballot?

      • Frito Pie

        Eeew! A hanging chad!

    • Grindr

      There are 183 voters within 100ft.

    • SomeGuy

      There’s opportunity there. I overheard some chick talking about poles. Context seemed a little strange, but getting poled was definitely on her mind.

      • drax

        Your chad is hangin’.

        • SomeGuy

          As long as I’m not responsible for any pregnant ones, that’s fine by me.

          • WeiQiang

            smooth. very smooth. i’m supposing that this is why you were overhearing her and not having the conversation with her.

          • drax

            How do you pick up chicks?

          • WeiQiang

            carefully, since I don’t want to damage their downy feathers.

            other than that, I haven’t picked up a chick since 1989.

          • SomeGuy

            Yeah, I kept my distance. Fortunately, she was several voters in front of me in the line, so I was still outside the entrance while she was already inside the door, totally in heat and talking about that stuff.

          • WeiQiang

            ahh, the ubiquitous 10-foot poll. heh.

            ‘totally in heat’ = classic. don’t let the Pup hear you; you know how he gets.

    • SHLady

      First they’d have to look up from their smartphones.

    • Vote for love

      There was a cute man standing behind me in line. Unfortunately he was (a) with a woman who may have been his girlfriend/wife, (b) wearing printed polartec jammie pants (?!), and (c) at least a decade younger than I. Oh yeah, and I’m married, so there’s that.

      • speonjosh

        I LOLed.

  • RightWingWhacko

    It’s one day out of four years of days. If it’s a long line, that’s good because it means people are actually participating. I’m glad to see this.

  • bobco85

    Line at Ashlawn around 6:30 this morning was about 40 minutes long. I used the paper ballot as the electronic one had an additional wait of 10 minutes.

    • Ballston

      It was like that at my polling place too. I expected people to be more confident voting paper, but people seem to prefer the machines.

      • drax

        Yeah, the paper just goes into a computer anyway.

        • Josh S

          It is interesting to me that people would have more confidence with computerized voting rather than voting with a paper ballot. Seems to me a lot easier to manipulate and change a database than it would be to change a paper ballot. Also, yes, you scan your paper ballot at the end of voting, but there is still a paper ballot to serve as documentary evidence of how you voted. No such documentary evidence when you use the computerized terminal.

          If the election is close, you can bet there will be accusations of tampering with the computerized vote, especially from the Democrats, since the corporations (including Diebold) that provide the software and hardware tend to be run by those who favor the Republicans.

          • WeiQiang

            This is probably the best point. There is no paper receipt in VA that shows if/how you voted. Auditing is nigh impossible.

          • drax

            Well, they could use the paper ballots for a recount or hand count – they probably don’t throw them out. However, since most of the ballots aren’t paper, that’s completely pointless anyway. So I don’t know why they added paper ballots. All I know is it made voting faster for those who used them.

          • speonjosh

            Ummm……paper ballots actually pre-date the touchscreen thingys. So, if we’re speaking in a Newtonian, linear flow of time world, “they” “added” the touchscreens, not the paper ballots.

          • speonjosh

            And the question would then be – why did they add the touchscreens?
            To save paper?
            Speed up counting? (results not formally presented until sometime in January, isn’t it?)
            Maybe touchscreens are less vulnerable to fire? No, that can’t be it. Less vulnerable to being eaten by rats? Yeah, OK, probably. That must be it.

          • drax

            Thanks, but the paper ballots and machines are newer than the touch machines, even though their technology is older.

          • SHLady

            I prefer the computer, because it will go into a computer anyway, but the extra step means there is more chance of error. I prefer to control my own input.

          • ArlSouth

            Obviously, computerized voting wasn’t a problem in any Arlington election or in the 2008 elections.

          • speonjosh

            Obviously.

  • novasteve

    I waited almost 2 hours at the Clarendon Education Center Building however the line got shorter for new arrivals.

  • INF

    So Patrick Moran is simply stupid, not corrupt. Got it.

  • Arlingtoon

    Arrive at the Madison Center at 7:40; left after voting exactly one hour later. One benefit to my commute — the G.W. Parkway was empty when I merged from Spout Run.

    And I forgot to vote for Jim Moran again. I have it when that happens.

    • Arlingtoon

      Too many typos.

      Arrived, not Arrive. And I hate it, not have it, when that happens.

      Need more coffee.

  • curious george

    80 minutes starting at 0715 at George Mason (Fairfax Drive).

    Renewed my license to bitch so all good.

  • Ballstownian

    Got to Central Library just before the polls open and was able to get inside–only took about half an hour total. But when I left, the line was out into the parking lot and almost back to 10th Street.

  • novasteve

    Like father like Son. Fortunately for your Mr. Moran, the electorate here is stupid and will reelect you. Maybe you can meet up with your son in Jail one day.

    • WeiQiang

      early coffee today, steve?

    • drax

      Yes, steve, everyone who disagrees with you is stupid!

      This is why nobody listens to you.

  • Dumbfounded

    Perhaps it is time to get the polling hours changed. 6am – 7pm just is not long enough in this area with our work & commuting schedules.

    If we could have the polls open until 8pm, maybe it would take some of the crush off of the early hour lines!

    It took me an hour and 20 minutes at the VA Square – George Mason U. location.

    However, at least we are not in FLA under Rick Scott’s regime!

    • however

      Your company is legally obligated to give you appropriate time to vote and if in an area like this they mean you do some sort of comp time (reverse) trade then so be it, but if they didn’t even seem lenient at all then they’re likely jerks, but also possibly breaking state or federal labor laws.

      • Bite-my-vote

        Actually, Virginia has no general law on providing employees time off to vote. however, Virginia law does provide that employees whose combined work and commuting takes up 11 or more of the 13 hours in which the polls are open are to have an opportunity to vote by means of absentee ballot or early voting.

    • drax

      You can vote early if you work outside Arlington.

  • Mister Brown Eye

    Now that everyone has weighed in on the lines to vote that they encountered, why don’t you share details about your election morning constitutional, including size, color and consistency.

    • FrenchyB

      That’s a bit nutty.

      • Kitty

        Nah, it’s corny, not nutty.

  • smdc

    Got in line in Courthouse at Key Elementary at 6am and waited 1 hour to vote! I think there were only 6 electronic booths, and four booths for paper ballots, but people were’nt interested. The line to check in was the longest part, anyways, voting on paper ballot only would save about 20 minutse at that polling place.

    When I left for work at 8:30, saw lots of people still headed over there.

    • novasteve

      The education building only had 4 electronic booths and 4 paper booths.

      • smdc

        Terrible!

        • Sheriff Gonna Getcha

          The line at Arlington Traditional was horrible also.

          Only 4 booths to vote, with over 1.5 hour waits to vote after getting in line at 6 30am.

          Is there a reason why they have such restrictive voting hours? people have jobs wtf. there has to be a better way.

          • Josh S

            Restrictive?

            Better ways include: absentee ballot, voting early – both available in Virginia. Oregon allows mail-in voting and huge numbers take advantage of that. You might want to consider lobbying your state legislators.

            In any case, as someone mentioned earlier, your place of employment is legally obligated to give you time to vote.

          • JohnB2

            VA doesn’t do early voting, only absentee voting.

          • Rosslyner

            True…..however, you are eligible to vote absentee if you will be absent from the county at any time on election day. If you work in DC or Fairfax, you qualify…..and technically, you could just drive across into Fairfax for a couple minutes and qualify.

          • drax

            In some jurisdictions, including Arlington, the registrars are very lax about your absentee reasons, so it’s effectively early voting.

          • DCBuff

            Voting hours are restrictive when voting begins at 6 a.m.? The polls are open 13 hours. How many people out there (at least ArlNow people) are working 13 hour days? Seriously. Get up early. Vote absentee. But stop complaining.

          • Sheriff Gonna Getcha

            Im sorry but I got up at 530am and got there at 630am and waited 2 hours. Maybe they should open at 500am and stay open until 800pm?

            Or have more than 4 booths? just a thought.

          • Bite-my-vote

            Actually, Virginia has no general law on providing employees time off to vote. However, Virginia law does provide that employees whose combined work and commuting takes up 11 or more of the 13 hours in which the polls are open are to have an opportunity to vote by means of absentee ballot or early voting.

    • FlipFlopEnthusiast

      Key, at 10.30 still had a line extending out from the entrance to well into N. Adams St.

  • John Fontain

    How is it that Yorktown is good enough to have a perfect record?

    • 120

      Yorktown has an awesome coaching staff and a very disciplined team. Shout outs to Coach Hanson, MJ Stewart, Micah Gregory and Arturo Brown.

      • SteamboatWillie

        That’s a much more polite answer than I almost typed. I wasn’t sure whether the question was serious or just oblivious to recent history and/or ignorant about the game of football.

        • John Fontain

          My question is, in fact, serious and I’ll admit to being oblivious about the background issues to which you refer. I am genuinely interested in understanding why that team performs as well as it does. Better coaching? Just happen to have a better group of athletes? More money and more resources help the team in some way? Recruit players from other schools? What is the reason?

  • novasteve

    Jim Moran and son is like seeing Chief Wiggum and his son Ralphie.

    • DrTchock

      My cat’s breath smells like cat food!

      • Frito Pie

        Me flunk English? That’s unpossible!

  • West Arl

    50 minutes to vote at Kenmore Middle School (Glen Carlyn) when we got in line at 7:30. Line shorter when we left. Folks were in line at Campbell Elementary (Arlington Mill) when we drove by before 6am. Almost everyone at Bob and Edith’s was sporting an “I Voted” sticker.

  • Runaway Train

    Curious to what others thought about the Moran interview. It was painfully awkward to watch. Not sure what Moran was looking to accomplish with it. There were points where it seemed like Moran forgot his son was sitting right next to him. I felt like I was standing next to a parent in the grocery store spanking their kid. The criminal investigation should be dropped, that interview was punishment enough.

    • fourmilerunner

      Finally, was waiting for this thread to start. Very awkward! Can’t imagine voting for Moran after that.

  • Jeff

    500 people in line at 6am at Gunston – only 4 voting machines. You’ve got to be kidding me!

    • SHLady

      that seems to be the standard number of machines for every polling station.

      • Garden City

        5 at Yorktown H.S.

        • SHLady

          guess not then!

        • dk (not DK)

          I think there were 6 machines at St. Agnes (Cherrydale). Hmmm, more voting machines in the wealthier parts of the county? Nah…..

  • Buckingham Bandit

    You losers should have early voted like I did.

    • smdc

      Early vote = absentee only. I work and live in VA, therefore, could not early vote.

      • PreVote

        The rules about who qualifies are loose enough that just about anyone can vote absentee.

        • smdc

          Yeh, based on my ability to read, I don’t fit into any absentee category. I live half a block from my polling place, do not care for anyone who is infirm, do not work/commute 11-13 hours, have no religious objections to waking up at 6am on Tuesday, etc.etc.

          I suppose I could have voted in case I was sick?

          • Banksy

            I voted early because I thought I might be going out of town. Also, a terrible cold was going around the office, and I was afraid I was going to catch it just in time for election day. Fortunately, I didn’t have to go out of town and I got sick two weeks ago, instead of this week. Still very glad I voted early. Better safe than sorry.

          • Loocy

            You can vote early if you plan to be out of the county at any point in the day for any reason. Make a breakfast date in Falls Church next election instead of freezing in the early morning voting lines.

  • WeiQiang

    A couple hundred people out the door at Aurora Hills Community Center at 0830.

    • ArlingtonDave

      Only 4 paper ballot stations and 4 voting machines. One voting machine started smoking this morning at Aurora Hills and it went out of service. I wonder how many votes were lost because of “technical difficulties”…

      • Josh S

        If they had been backed up with documentary evidence……

      • WeiQiang

        i’m with steve on this one; i think it’s unconscionable that machines are not allowed to smoke at all.

      • But……

        I think that the machine had to be underage…you should report the store that sold the machine the cigarettes to the nearest law enforcement person !!

  • SHLady

    Went to the Parks Center in Shirlington a little before 6:30, was out of there one hour later.

    • SHLady

      and Jim Moran went down the line and shook hands with people.

  • PreVote

    Given all the polling places at APS, how many teachers were late to class due to lack of parking?

    • John Fontain

      None. School is closed today.

      • DCBuff

        Teacher work day. So they are still there, but not late to class.

  • JohnB2

    Any report from W&L location voting? How many machines/etc?

    Thanks!

  • Wayne Kubicki

    Some of the delays this morning are due to the constitutional amendments and bond referenda, which many folks see for the first time on the voting machine. Here’s a link to what the actual machine screens look like – read before you go to the polls!

    http://www.arlingtonva.us/departments/voterregistration/images/file87270.pdf

    • BoredHouseWife

      thank you. I was trying to find those out.

      • drax

        Don’t people read newspapers any more?

        (Would have been nice for ArlNow to do a story on these).

        • BoredHouseWife

          don’t have the newspaper delivered. The state board of elections website didn’t show the amendments.

          • drax

            So get it delivered and educate yourself about what you’re voting about. Or read it on the web. Is that too much to ask?

  • 120

    I was in line at Claremont at 5:45am. Once the doors opened we moved inside and I was finished by 6:45am. I was pleased with my voting experience.

    • Josh S

      I agree. Even after waiting 90 minutes outside in the cold, I am happy today to have voted and to have seen so many other people out voting.

      It helped that the 4th graders were having a bake sale and walked up and down the line selling coffee and donuts.

      • drax

        The Girl Scouts offered to bring us coffee in line. Awesome!

  • MyHood

    Any report on Arlington Ridge (River House) polling place? About to go over and hoping the line is not too long.

    • JamesE

      only four machines, line was 2-2.5 hours long this morning

      • JamesE

        oops this was meant for W&L

    • WeiQiang

      Seriously … you have a different polling place than I? You really ARE in the upmarket side of the ‘hood. ;-)

      How’d R do in the storm? P was a little skittish about going out when it was time.

      • MyHood

        He was okay. I took him out for a walk with his girlfriend M and M’s mom about 5 pm at the height of the storm. That was stupid.

    • WeiQiang

      KBE: November 6th, 2012 12:20 pm

      Took just over 3 hours at Riverhouse in Pentagon City. Five machines there, plus four booths for paper ballots.

      • MyHood

        2 hours 20 minutes for me at Riverhouse. On the upside they had snacks. Granola bars, grapes, leftover Halloween candy and as I was leaving pizza. Everyone is making the best of it.

  • Loocy

    About half the voting takes place before 9:30 am. If you can do so, go at a different time, and reserve the morning lines for those who have no choice but to vote before work. Yorktown was only about 20 minutes a short time ago, but the earliest voters were in line well over an hour. The hours 1-4 pm are usually very quick. As long as you are in line by 7 pm, you will be allowed to vote, even if you don’t actually get to the machine until later.

    • Really?

      Barcroft – in at 10:30, out at 10:50. more than half already voted at 10:30 we’re told.

      • Vicky Vallencourt

        125% of the registered voters in Patrick Moran’s neighborhood voted by 10am.

  • Voter

    Line at Drew school still 2 hours long At 11 am

    • HP2000

      That’s crazy. Was their a problem there?

  • BoredHouseWife

    for those that can go in during the slow hours – 2-4 pm.

  • ArlMom

    Reeves Farm seems like a good location for another elementary school…

  • KRS

    Just voted at Arlington Arts Center. No line at all.

    • Mike

      That gives me an idea: they should use the Artisphere as a polling place. It would dramatically boost attendance statistics every four years.

  • KC

    Waited from 11am to 1125am at VA Square (GMU Law School)…

  • HP2000

    Any reports from Walter Reed CC?

  • Garden City

    I was pleased to see high school kids at Yorktown working as poll officers. As long as you are old enough to vote, you can work the polls, and it takes the pressure off the octogenarians who normally work the polls. My parents worked the polls until they were in their mid-80s.

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