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Lopez Reintroduces DREAM Act Legislation

by ARLnow.com | January 10, 2013 at 3:55 pm | 2,331 views | 125 Comments

Alfonso Lopez (photo via Facebook)(Updated at 4:45 p.m.) Del. Alfonso Lopez (D) of Arlington has reintroduced legislation that provides in-state college tuition, under certain conditions, for the children of illegal immigrants.

Modeled after the federal DREAM Act, Lopez’s bill (HB 1934) would provide in-state tuition at public Virginia universities for undocumented students who graduated from a Virginia high school or GED program, provided they attest to filing an application to become a permanent U.S. resident. The bill would also requires that the student and/or a parent has filed Virginia income tax returns for at least three years.

“A number of talented immigrant students who grow up here and graduate from Virginia high schools are undocumented — through no fault of their own,” Lopez said. “At best, they may be able to take our significant investment in their K-12 education to another state. At worst, they may decide to drop out of high school because college is not a realistic goal.”

“Virginia should be joining states such as Texas, Kansas, Illinois, Utah, Nebraska, New York, Washington, and Oklahoma in passing the DREAM Act and opening this narrow window of opportunity for students,” he continued. “These States understand that encouraging college access and opportunities reduces high school dropout rates and saves long term costs and public benefits spending for the community.”

Lopez introduced the legislation on Wednesday after vowing last year to introduce the bill “every year until it becomes the law of the Commonwealth.”

“I am encouraged by the prospects for HB 1934 this year,” Lopez told ARLnow.com. “More importantly, I remain strongly committed to seeing that undocumented children are given the opportunity to continue their education.”

HB 1934 is now awaiting a vote in the House of Delegates Education committee.

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  • novasteve

    Yes, lets reward illegal behavior and punish the taxpayer and residents of other states and legal foreign students by subsidizing tuition for illegal aliens, and become like Maryland. Maybe we can drastically raise taxes too, and put speed cameras everywhere.

  • KalashniKEV

    Sounds more like a nightmare…

  • b-money

    How about no.

  • Cy

    I had my first asian girl experience last night. Soooo good.

    • DeportEmAll

      Which country?

    • KalashniKEV

      +1
      Asian is the smoothest.

    • Ray

      Lucky! Asian girls are good!

  • Louise

    Love this guy!

  • Arlingtonian

    About time! Too many kids who graduate with 4.0 gpa’s and can’t apply to school because by NOT FAULT OF THEIR OWN they were brought over as infants and unaware of their legal status.

    • novasteve

      So by your logic arlingtonian, should parents with children not be sent to jail for their crimes because it would harm their kids? I mean the kids didn’t commit the burglary, or the murder, so why punish the kid by sending the parent to jail?

      • drax

        Wrong analogy, steve. KIDS shouldn’t be sent to jail with their parents. Get it now?

        • novasteve

          No it’s a perfect analogy, because the argument here is that kids shouldn’t be punished for the actions of their parents, and don’t you think sending parents to jail punishes their kids as well by depriving them of their parents?

          • drax

            No, I don’t steve.

            When we start denying the kids of CITIZEN parents who commit crimes the right to in-state tuition, then you might have a point.

          • novasteve

            Drax. we deny in state to citizens of people who even live in the state. Military families on bases are technically residents of other states in many instances, despite living in VA, and their kids can’t get in state tuition, but illegal aliens will under these rules. And democrats think this is “fair”?

          • drax

            I should clarify – I’m not necessarily saying I support this legislation, just challenging steve’s logic.

            But maybe military families should get some kind of break with that, since they move around alot.

          • KalashniKEV

            Let’s give everyone a break and just charge what it costs. If it’s quality education, they will do OK.

    • Louise

      I believe they can still apply to schools–they just would be charged as out of state–which I believe is about double the cost of instate. I was just checking the NOVA rates yesterday. It makes a huge difference.

    • novasteve

      They can apply, they just get out of state tuition, which is more than fair. They shouldn’t be even allowed to take a spot of someone who is a legal resident or has a student visa.

      • Dezlboy

        novasteve, What if these kids have been working and made enuf to pay state tax? What if these kids have been purchasing food and cars and stuff and paying state tax? What if these kids become educated and have successful employment and pay even more state income tax? What if one of these kids becomes a doctor and discovers another vaccine? Should we deny these students based on the sins of their fathers?

        • novasteve

          Every other country punishes the children of illegal alien parents much more harshly than we do, why should we be different? If I snuck into europe, there would be no talk about subsidized tuition, I’d get my behind sent to an internment camp and then deported. It’s like our policies here encourages people to come illegally, unlike every other country.

          • Louise

            One really can’t compare between the US and Europe because the cost of a college education over there is so very much less expensive–it’s practically free, because it’s subsidized by taxes. There are tons of undocumented immigrants in Europe, Steve–share with us your data about how their children are punished so harshly.

          • novasteve

            Louise, it’s not that it’s subsidized, it is rationed in europe. Not everyone goes to college there like they do here. Well of course not everyone here, but we have people getting worthless degrees here which devalues the degree, and they wind up working jobs they didn’t need a degree for originally, now a college degree in the US basically proves literacy, not much else. We have too many people getting worthless degrees and too few STEM degrees.

      • Dezlboy

        novasteve, by your logic children of undocumented parents should wait at the end of the line at an emergency room suffering from a cut artery, and have an Virginia/US citizen with a splinter go ahead of them.

        • novasteve

          Apples and oranges, tuition at a university is not the same as a medical emergency.

          • Dezlboy

            novasteve, you wrote, “”Every other country punishes the children of illegal alien parents much more harshly than we do, why should we be different? ” well?

          • novasteve

            dez: If other countries dont’ bend over backwards for the children of illegals, why are we racist bigots in the US for suggesting doing the same?

    • Educated

      Many (perhaps most) illegal aliens come from countries such as Mexico that have excellent public university systems with low tuition and high standards for admission. The illegals can return home if they have the grades to be accepted in those universities.

      However, if they don’t have the grades, they want to stay in the U.S. and enroll in community colleges and other schools that don’t require high grades for admission. Those are the people that a Dream Act subsidizes.

      Nobody promoting the Dream Act ever points this out to the unsuspecting public.

  • Arlingtonian

    No*

  • Mary-Austin

    Just wondering…what does the legislation consider “growing up here”?

    • Arlingtonian

      At least three years since they have to have paid Virginia income tax for at least three years.

      But most of those kids have lived their entire lives in the Virginia/the U.S. and have no memory of where it is they came from anyway.

      • novasteve

        WRONG. File income tax returns, NOT PAY IT. In fact you need to file a return to get certain handouts from the state.

    • Louise

      Mary-Austin, it’s in the article–they need a high school degree + 3 years of their parents paying taxes. So, any age between birth and about 15ish, is how I interpret that.

  • DeportEmAll

    NO!

  • JohnB2

    I normally consider myself a little left of center but I have trouble supporting this. The only thing that makes me even consider it is the income tax requirement: “The bill would also requires that the student and/or a parent has paid Virginia income tax for at least three years.”

    • Arlingtonian

      Why shouldn’t children who have gone through the VA public school system since kindergarten and have grades good enough to apply to college be able to apply? Most public universities in VA are severely lacking diversity due to the fact that they restrict kids from applying who are fully qualified to attend except for the fact that they don’t have a number attached to their name.

      • Patrick

        Wrong, currently they can apply. This is about providing them with in-state tuition (i.e. a privledge of the legal residents of VA).

      • DCBuff

        Please show how “Most public universities in VA are severely lacking diversity…” You definition of diversity implies we need illegal aliens in order to have diversity. Garbage.

        • DCBuff

          “Your” definition.

    • novasteve

      That won’t be what the bill will have. He says “pay” but the bill will only require a file a tax return requirement. I mean to do otherwise would discriminate against the poorest of the poor of illegal aliens. So he basically is lying here by using the term “pay income tax”

  • KalashniKEV

    There is only one path for a Criminal Alien- Pursuit, Detention, Deportation. No Exceptions.

  • Head spinning

    How would an undocumented person pay taxes? Using a fraudulent social security number? Isn’t that a crime? I don’t see how this could possibly work.

    • novasteve

      Actually many file tax returns so they can get EIC, and state benefits. very few actually wind up paying taxes. I’m sure the reality is that the bill will only have a filing a tax return requirement, not actually paying income tax, because that would in fact discriminate against the poorest illegals, because they don’t pay income taxes.

      • Dezlboy

        novasteve, you wrote, “Actually many file tax returns so they can get EIC, and state benefits. very few actually wind up paying taxes.” Who are the many, who are the few? and what is your source of information.

        • novasteve

          Reality. Do you think illegal aliens tend to be high earners or more likely to be people who get earned income credit and other state/federal benefits?

          Oh does anyone know if the proposed VA rule requires male illegal aliens to register with the selective service to qualify? They are required to do so, and not doing so is a futher crime they are committing.

          • Sam

            Wow. Nothing to back your claims up other than your preconceived racism.

          • novasteve

            Sam, are you implying that illegal aliens tend to be high earners? Considering that 47% of americans pay no federal income tax, do you think that people who are low skilled and illegally present are making enough money to pay federal income tax or state income taxes?

    • Louise

      They don’t need a social security #. You can get a # for paying taxes–I think it’s called a TIN.

  • Ballston Resident

    The article states: “The bill would also requires that the student and/or a parent has paid Virginia income tax for at least three years.”

    Is this fair to other legal Arlington residents who have paid their Virginia income tax all their working life? What a relief it would have been to only have to pay taxes for just 3 years to qualify our children for in-state resident status at our state universities.

    Something needs to be done to help these children of illegal residents get an education they deserve, especially those born in the US. But why should legal residents have to bear the cost of this? What about all the years the illegal residents did not pay taxes and we had to cover their share in our taxes? That does not seem fair.

    • Arlingtonian

      Undocumented residents in Arlington pay taxes everytime they purchase something, they get paid under the table, and can’t file taxes- therefore they get no return. Even if they get in state tuition rates, the ability for students fund their studies is still extremely difficult since they can’t apply for most scholarships. Legislation like this simply gives them the OPTION to try and better themself, it’s not just giving them a full ride to their university of choice.

      • novasteve

        Oh please, they will get special preferences and affirmative action and race based scholarships for being minorities.

      • KalashniKEV

        Oh, the inconveniences of a life of Crime. Que Lastima!

        • Arlingtonian

          A life of crime? So going to school everyday and getting good grades is a life of crime? It’s not their fault their parents came here illegally.

          • novasteve

            Actions have consequences Arlingtonian. If my parents snuck into France, and I grew up in France and wanted a subsidized education, I aint gonna get it. It’s the parents fault, not the country’s fault. We always punish children for the actions of their parents when the parents commit crimes, this shouldn’t be any different. They have their own country they can get educated in, and they can also apply for a student visa to study in the US if they want to, and they’d still get race based scholarships to help the cost out..

          • Head spinning

            Likewise it’s not our fault either but we’ll be paying for it

          • drax

            So you admire France, huh steve?

          • Buckingham Bandit

            France also has persistent riots in the suburbs of their cities, staged by immigrant youth who feel left out of French society. What’s your solution? Self-deportation for kids who only know one home country?

          • novasteve

            Buckingham, those dissillusioned youth in France are LEGALLY present. Again, why is my fault their parents broke the law here? Why is it my ancestors had to follow the rules here? Other jews during the rise of nazism tried to come to the USA and were denied entry following the rules, but they obeyed those rules and most if not all were killed in the holocaust. The illegal aliens here don’t face that in their own countries. They are economic migrants, not refugees.

      • novasteve

        I pay taxes every time I go to europe. I pay VAT, and all sorts of taxes for hotels, flights, etc, sh ould I get subsidized tuition in europe if I decide to remain their illegally?

    • Swag

      The argument could be made that an illegal immigrant who goes to college could get a better job than one who doesn’t. Better job = higher income = higher taxes paid. Also lower likelihood of criminality which is good for communities and saves money on incarceration. It also generates a more employable workforce that could attract businesses to the state.

      In-state tuition isn’t a tax refund that can only applies to college–it helps create the people the state needs to succeed.

      • Arlingtonian

        Get.it. Swaggy.

      • novasteve

        1. They still can’t legally work after they get this degree.

        2. What percentag of them are getting STEM degrees? It’s all find and dandy, but if they are getting these subsidized degrees in women’s, chicano and transgender studies, they aren’t going to be getting these higher paying jobs, just like how legal residents aren’t. Too many worthless degrees being awarded which DEVALUES degrees and leads to lower income meaning lower taxes paid.

        • southie

          +1000 to the point usually missed here: they still can’t legally work in the U.S. after they “better” themselves by attending college on taxpayer-subsidized tuition.

          • novasteve

            Southie, they’re banking on democrats giving them amnesty. That’s what all these dream acts are banking on, otherwise it’s completely pointless.

        • FrenchyB

          Maybe they should get fictitious law degrees.

          • drax

            LOL

          • novasteve

            What does your personal attack add to the conversation?

        • Swag

          “provided they attest to filing an application to become a permanent U.S. resident”

          • novasteve

            How do you apply to be became a lawful permanent resident while illegally residing in the US? Typically you have to do it from abroad, unless this is another special privilege for illegally present people.

    • Anne

      For legal Arlington residents, the requirement is only have to have had Virginia residency for one year to qualify for in-state tuition, not “their entire working life.” So requiring three years of income tax in Virginia is three times stricter than the requirement for most students.

      • novasteve

        And if I were in the country on a work visa or as a student, if I live here for 20 years I would still never qualify, despite me following the law UNLIKE illegals like the left caters to.

        • Anne

          If someone were in the country on a work visa, I’m betting they didn’t graduate from a Virginia high school. If they are in the country as a student their place of residence is obviously outside of Virginia and couldn’t qualify for in-state tuition—like if they were an American student with their place of residency outside of Virginia, they would have to pay out-of-state tuition.

          • novasteve

            They could have kids that graduated from a Virginia high school. People on work or study visas have families, and children too.

      • Ballston Resident

        Anne,

        Requiring illegal residents to pay three years years of income tax in Virginia is not three times stricter than the requirement for most students. You are overlooking all the years the illegal residents did not pay taxes and the legal residents did. Image how better off the state would be if all residents, legal and illegal, paid their fair share of taxes.

    • Louise

      It’s considered an investment. The more kids we have with college degrees, the more $$ they should be able to earn, and the more they should be able to contribute to society. When the degree is not attainable, the opposite often happens.

      • DCBuff

        The same holds true for young people who are here legally, whose parents are here legally. So, denying those young people opportunities in order to create opportunities for young people who are here illegally is a better investment?

        • Louise

          How is this denying anyone an opportunity? I’m not following.

          • novasteve

            Quite simple Louise. There are limited spots in universities, and limited amount of money to subsidize in state tuition. If that spot and money goes to an illegal alien, it means that spot can’t go to someone who is legally present. Are you going to deny that denies someone an opportunity?

          • DCBuff

            There are a finite number of spaces in each freshman class at the several Virginia public universities. And, there are an even more finite number of spaces for NoVa students. So, an illegal alien is allowed to take an instate slot that would go to a student that is a citizen or otherwise here legally. That is denial of opportunity.

          • Louise

            Drat! I can’t reply to you below DCBuff–so you have to look up here. I am very surprised to hear that there is a finite number of spaces for NOVA students. Could you share that data? I’ve always thought that pretty much anyone could go to NOVA. For other colleges, I do agree that it gets a bit sticky. But for NOVA? Help me out with some data, please.

          • DCBuff

            Louise–Not NOVA the community college. Virginia public universities, at least the elite ones, do place quotas on the number of Northern Virginia students in entering classes. This is to ensure diversity from other parts of the Commonwealth.

  • mickey_

    Undocumented is just that….no papers, no passport, no visa, and ILLEGAL which is the ONLY word for them. My DREAM ACT? Send them ALL back to where they came from. Use the unused school busses, fill them up and send them home. NO amnesty. Why pay tax money for someone that is illegal? Stop all medical, welfare, AND support and they will go home. Enforce our laws.

    • Arlingtonian

      So then you should probably get out too. Considering the fact that at some point down the line your family came here illegally. Pack your bags!!! Enjoy your trip back to your country of origin that you’ve never in your life visited!!! That is exactly what you would be doing to the kids who came here AS CHILDREN.

      • Patrick

        How can you be sure that mickey’s family came here illegally? Do you have some insider information about how mickey’s family immigrated to the US? If you don’t that is slander. The vast majority of the people, or their ancestors, immigrated to the US legally. No one has any issue with LEGAL immigration it is ILLEGAL immigration that most people don’t support.

        • drax

          I think he was referring to the fact that the first Europeans who came here didn’t exactly get visas from the Indians….

          • DCBuff

            While the Native American experience with Europeans/U.S. was hardly positive, the fact is that in most cases the very first settlements were established based on negotiations with local tribes. That is fact.

          • novasteve

            Drax, you seem to think the indians were not from someplace else.

          • drax

            LOL.

            Read some history. Some settlements involved negotation. Some involved coercive “negotiation.” Many involved war and massacre. To claim that most settlement was negotiated is just a silly whitewash of history. And, of course, most of those negotiations were promptly ignored by the settlers.

            I’m not judging history with “nowism” either. Indians invaded each other’s lands, and whites invaded white land in Europe. But don’t pretend whites were humble settlers who were welcomed by Indians at every landing.

        • novasteve

          Notice how dems try to call people who don’t support illegal alien normalization, etc xenophobes? They try to lump illegal and legal immigration together, sot hey can call you a xenophobe if you don’t support illegal immigrants. It’s very dishonest, and designed to silence people by accusing them of bigotry.

          • drax

            Did anyone call you a xenophobe here, steve?

  • Road DIet

    This topic clearly divides conservatives and liberals. Conservatives tend to look at what’s FAIR: and it’s debatable whether it’s fair to give benefits to families who came here illegally.

    Liberals tend to look at what’s EFFECTIVE, even if less fair. A dollar invested in young people who want to learn, find good jobs and contribute to this country is a great investment, no question.

    • novasteve

      THEY CANNOT LEGALLY WORK AFTER THEY GET THE DEGREE. So how will getting a degree get them a “good job” and contribute to the country if it’s a crime for themt to work?

      • Road DIet

        Good point. The next step in the liberal approach is to make sure these people DO get a working permit and a road to citizenship. Again: perhaps not fair, but definitely a lot more effective then creating a lost generation of semi-Americans.

    • drax

      Punishing children for the sins of their parents is not FAIR either.

    • FrenchyB

      Nope – Idealists on both ends of the political spectrum are completely wrapped up in concepts that they envision in their perfect world. The people in the middle are the ones that focus more on practical solutions.

  • Head spinning

    This proposition also seems incredibly unfair to immigrants who went through the proper immigration and naturalization channels.

    • novasteve

      It’s not about fairness or anything other than a feel good moment. I love it when some dem calls me a xenophobic bigot because I think immigration laws should be enforced and don’t believe in these DREAM acts, and the biggest advocates of course of following the rules and opposing DREAM acts are people who took the time, effort and expense of coming here legally. You can’t understand how pissed off they get knowing they could have just snuck and not had to go through all of that.

      • drax

        Valid point, steve – except the children didn’t sneak in, their parents did.

        • novasteve

          And drax, people who follow the rules should get punished as a result because someone else’s parents didn’t follow the rules? That’s really fair.

          • drax

            How is anyone getting punished?

          • novasteve

            Drax. Open your eyes. It would provide me an incentive to have my family come to the US illegaly, file income tax for three years, go to high school for free, and then get in state tuition rather than come to the USA on a student visa and have to pay out of state tutition. People following the rules get punished. Illegal aliens get rewarded.

  • Yup

    They can be admitted all they want, but in-state tuition is for taxpayers and citizens. VA schools are mandated to maintain a specific ratio of instate versus out of state and this will only further hamper in-state scholars, especially those in VA considering NOVA schools are some of the best in the nation.
    Course, getting rid of affirmative action would solve a lot of issues..

  • southie

    Telling someone they should get out because their family came here illegally makes no sense, especially if that person was born here. The point is that these kids were born in a foreign country and are likely citizens of their country of origin. If they were born in the U.S., it wouldn’t matter because they would automatically have U.S. citizenship.

  • Head spinning

    Actually, my bet Patrick is that arlingtonian racially profiled ‘Mickey’ as a slovenly drunk irish mick whose ancestors must have come here illegally which of course is most likely not the case…

  • Louise

    You know what would be really fun? Is if we all just completely ignore novasteve and stop replying to his trolling remarks. Then, perhaps, this could actually be a kind of nice place to visit! Not a sermon, just a thought.

    • novasteve

      Because I don’t agree with you I am a troll? Wow, that’s so tolerant.

      • drax

        Says the guy who insists that anyone who disagrees with him by voting for a Democrat must be stupid.

        • novasteve

          Look at chicago, detroit, etc and let me know what voting democrat has accomplished?

  • JIM M

    Please don’t refer to them as “illegal immigrants.” More properly, they should be known as “Undocumented Democrats.”

    • novasteve

      I know you jest, but democrats like Martin O’Malley have called then “new Americans”.. I’ve heard all sorts of new terms used to take away from the fact they are breaking the laws to be here.

    • KalashniKEV

      The proper term is Criminal Alien.

  • n00bbanker

    As a Republican I don’t find this type of legislation to be that offensive. The biggest problem is so the parent and or child came here illegally, now they reside here, what are you going to do about it?

    This is the kind of issue on which the GOP shoots themselves in the foot continuously. There are much bigger fish to fry.

    • novasteve

      As a republican, you don’t seem to be one given you hvae no issue with using taxpayer money to subsidize tuition and take spots that could go to legal residents of the country and virginia.

      • drax

        But take that to it’s logical conlusion, steve – should we exclude children of illegals from ALL benefits? No public school? No fire and police protection?

    • KalashniKEV

      LOL… yeah, no big deal. Maybe we can hook the parents up to Veteran’s Benefits and a whole bunch of other sweet bennies they are completely ineligible for.

      • n00bbanker

        I don’t even know why I’m responding since there is nothing I can say to sway you two.

        Comparing tuition benefits to Veterans benefits is a terrible example. I’m pretty sure the kid has to graduate from a Virginia high school and be accepted to a university in addition to proving residency to even have a shot at getting such benefits.

        Anyway, I’m fine with them saying they have to pay out of state tuition too, but thats hard to argue in cases where a kid essentially grew up in Virginia his entire life or many years. This is a point I’m willing to give on because someone (the student) actually has to earn something, i.e. gaining admittance to university.

        Reducing entitlements that only require the person to be breathing and that are a much greater threat to our country is what I’m concerned with.

        • KalashniKEV

          How are they getting seats in Virginia High Schools??? They are not eligible to receive a “free” education here just by being here.

      • drax
  • Hank

    This might be an overly simplified point of view, but I think it’s better to have educated children of illegal immigrants than undereducated children of illegal immigrants. It makes sense from a purely financial point of view; people with college educations tend to make more money than those without college educations. Therefore, they pay more in taxes. I would think that over time, the increased tax revenue from these kids would offset the reduction in tuition they benefited from. Plus, I’d rather have even more educated people living in my community. It raises the quality of life.

    • novasteve

      You make mistaken assumptions.

      1. It’s still a crime for them to work once they get a degree

      2. Do all higher education degrees raise the quality of life? If you had a community of 10,000 transgender studies majors, are you going to say that every time the quality of life will be higher in that community than in communities of 10,000 that don’thave as many degree holders?

      College is simple. I did it in my sleep. It’s not much of proof of anything other than literacy any more.

      • Hank

        Is it a crime for children of illegal immigrants to work? I’m not sure about that. No, not all degrees would necessarily improve the quality of life in a community (I’d prefer not to live in an area where there were 10,000 people with Associate’s degrees in gunsmithing), but I think you can agree that as a rule of thumb, education does raise the quality of life.

        It would be awesome to live in a neighborhood with that number of transgender studies majors. Imagine the parties.

        • KalashniKEV

          Indeed.

        • novasteve

          The children of illegal aliens, if they are illegal aliens themselves (ie not born in the US) cannot legally work in the US. it’s like if I got to the UK as a tourist or sneak in, it’s illegal for me to work.

  • novasteve

    Does the VA Dream Bill require illegal alien males to register for the selective service as a condition? They are required by law to register with the selective service, and it’s a crime to not do so. So if they aren’t required under this bill to have registered, then this is another SPECIAL PRIVILEGE for illegal males.

  • ICE

    Why are my tax dollars being spent to educated people who are here illegally? What does their country do to me?????? I don’t care how they got here. They can always go back to the country that they were born in and apply legally. People like my wife, who followed the rules and legally immigrated this country get shi* on. I could care less if prices go up as a result but most of these folks need to be deported. What we forget is that many of these people will never be eligible for immigration due to crimes committed in their own country. Americans keep getting killed by illegals from south of the border and this has to stop!

  • Thomas

    Why are my tax dollars being spent to educated people who are here illegally? What does their country do to me?????? I don’t care how they got here. They can always go back to the country that they were born in and apply legally. People like my wife, who followed the rules and legally immigrated this country get shi* on. I could care less if prices go up as a result but most of these folks need to be deported. What we forget is that many of these people will never be eligible for immigration due to crimes committed in their own country. Americans keep getting killed by illegals from south of the border and this has to stop!

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