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Moran to Host Gun Violence Forum

by Katie Pyzyk — February 27, 2013 at 5:00 pm 2,043 87 Comments

Rep. Jim Moran at the 2012 Civic Federation candidates debate(Updated at 6:05 p.m.) Rep. Jim Moran (D) has scheduled a community forum to discuss gun violence.

The forum, titled “Preventing Another Newtown: A Conversation on Gun Violence in America,” will feature a panel of experts on gun policy, public safety and mental health issues.

The following guests are slated to attend: Omar Samaha with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, retired ATF Special Agent David Chipman, Josh Horwitz with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, City of Alexandria Police Chief Earl Cook, Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence and former counsel for the Senate Judiciary Committee Karen Marangi.

“From Virginia Tech to Newtown, gun violence has become far too common. Each day, 32 Americans are killed with a firearm. We must improve our laws to prevent the continuation of this horrific trend,” Moran said. “This forum is an opportunity to bring together a diverse panel of experts who will share their thoughts on a comprehensive plan to reduce gun violence. Northern Virginians concerned over gun-related violence are invited to join the conversation.”

Members of the public are welcome to attend the forum, which will be held from 7:00-9:00 p.m. on March 11 in the Washington-Lee High School (1301 N. Stafford Street) auditorium.

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  • Washington Jenkins

    His son might not want to go to this. Too much law enforcement. I’m sure he doesn’t want to get arrested again.

  • LuciferBernanke

    Gun Control Doesn’t Work. Even if it did work, do you trust the people pushing for it? Feinstein, Cumo, the Godfather (sure is working for Chicago!), Obama, Crazy Uncle Joe……..For the future of our country, I hope you do not…

    • JimPB

      Gun control can work. After a Newtown-like massacre, Australia implemented rigorous gun control nationally in a country with a high prevalence of guns. The result: a significant decrease in gun violence.
      The people pushing for gun control: In the lead of a bottom-up movement, those who have lost a family member to gun violence.

      • LuciferBernanke

        bet ya 100 federal reserve notes violent crime rate (rape, murder, armed robbery, etc) will double within 5 years, hurting thousands

        • http://www.dethronethebanksters.com/ LuciferBernanke

          That wasn’t me posting…but…it’s mostly correct ;)

          • Parody of LuciferBernanke

            The Fed causes head lice, obesity, and bad reality TV shows.

      • Guy LeDouche

        Let’s keep eroding our Constitutional rights…maybe we will eventually get to one that you actually like.

      • johnny b

        Australia’s Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:
        In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
        Sexual assault — Australia’s equivalent term for rape — increased 29.9 percent.
        Overall, Australia’s violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

        Moreover, Australia and the United States — where no gun-ban exists — both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:
        Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America’s rate dropped 31.7 percent.
        During the same time period, all other violent crime indices
        increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2
        percent.
        Sexual assault — Australia’s equivalent term for rape — increased 29.9 percent.
        Overall, Australia’s violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
        At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape
        dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault
        dropped 32.2 percent.

        • kalashnikev

          If we are to assume that our Universal Disarmament would be as “effective” as Australia’s (it won’t because it’s not a gun issue but a cultural/ societal one) what would you say to the approximately FORTY FOUR THOUSAND *additional* women who would be raped the following year? That it would be worth trading our freedom and their safety to get the baaaaad guns taken away?

          • drax

            Good question, Kev. Careful, some guys might choose their wife getting raped over their kids getting shot to death.

          • kalashnikev

            Criminals aren’t going to disarm, so there’s really not going to be any effect on people getting murdered. Law abiding citizens will though, and you will see the devils take over like they did in Australia- Mad Max Style.

          • oz

            1) Secual Assault is not hte same as rape (it covers a whole range of lesser crimes)
            2) I am sure that more rapes are commited at gun point than prevented by the potential victim carrying one.

          • kalashnikev

            Why don’t you ask the 29.9% of women who were “sexually assaulted”

            1) If it was not as big a deal as rape?
            2) If they had the option to carry a firearm would they have shot their attacker or just took it?

            3) If it was in anyway worth trading in your rights just so you can get a 42.2% rise in violent crime and a “feel good moment?”

            Their dizzy headed and emotional response to Port Arthur destroyed their country forever. Ask an Aussie. It’s sad.

          • Mike Donatello

            You’re “sure”? Well, that’s reassuring.

        • OZ

          In 1996, Australia banned semi-automatics- Including a mandatory buy back program. In the 18 years before, there were 13 mass shootings. Since then, none. That’s the only stat that counts and speaks directly to the problem

          • novasteve

            Did more people die from the mass shootings than from other gun violence? It’s interesting how also int he US people go insane when suburban whites get shot in a mass shooting, but no such outrage for the daily urban violence.

      • Mackinac52

        Australia is now experiencing home invasions in broad day light at alarming rates. It is because the bad guys know that no one in the house has a gun. People are being beaten and robbed and killed in Australia since guns have been outlawed, and it’s all happening in their own homes !

      • Victoria Bingham

        Less gun violence? But an increase in burglaries, robberies and murders.
        So much for a positive impact. Check what the Aussies themselves have to say about it post legislation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8HDDpReVlI

  • jxwx

    About 115 people/day die from automobile accidents! When are we going to do something about all the car violence??!?!

    • jackson

      How many children accidentally kill their sibling with a car?

      • Anon

        I’d wager it’s a lot more than accidentally kill them with guns

      • novasteve

        How many times has someone accidentally shot a stores vs. cars ramming into stores, especially here in arlington?

        • jackson

          Using only my memory of Arlnow stories in the past year or so, maybe 2:1, cars driving into buildings vs. bullets mysteriously entering peoples’ homes. I was just pointing out the “apples and oranges” argument about cars being inherently dangerous. How many more Americans will drive a vehicle today than fire a gun?

    • Hi Riser

      How many times has a convenience store been held up with a car?

      • The Senator

        Pretty often actually. Criminals usually don’t commit a crime then stand there.

    • drax

      We are doing something about it.

      Next empty objection?

  • Sparky

    How many bank robbery notes say, “Give me all your money. I have a car”

    • Jason

      How many guns go off and kill people, because their owners fell asleep?

      • The Senator

        It usually happens to men around age 13. It’s called a wet dream.

        • tumblebum

          Well played Senator.

          • speonjosh

            Thank you for not saying “touche.”

  • myvideoreviewer

    I will never ever vote for Moran again. You know, I must have contacted his office for two tickets to the inauguration (for my and my GF). No one from his office ever contacted me via email or phone. Not even a yes or no on the ticket. He is gone from my books. I will vote for anyone but him. So glad that his son was busted. I think we need to defeat Moran for his lack of ties to the voters.

    • Seriously?

      While I don’t condone his office not getting back you on the inauguration tickets, that’s a fairly stupid reason not to vote for someone. Check out his record and then make an informed decision.

    • kalashnikev

      He’s talking about taking away your constitutionally protected freedoms and you won’t vote for him because you didn’t get to party it up and rub shoulders with a crew of Villains???

      • drax

        Villains! And ne’er-do-wells! And fiends!

  • The Senator

    Actually, cars are used regularly in bank robberies and in the commission of other crimes but remembering that would require a shred of reason.

    • kalashnikev

      But if we can lower the speed limit outside the bank, it will be so easier to catch them!

      (just like if we “ban” guns no one will get murdered by them!)

      • novasteve

        LOL

    • novasteve

      In fact you can be charged with accomplice liability and be treated as a principal for merely driving the actual robber away, however if their original plan was just to walk together after the robbery, its unlikely that would be the case other than just a conspiracy charge at most. The fact they drove a car is what will get them concivted of a serious crime.

  • Jesus Shuttlesworth

    I highly doubt that any of the supporters of gun control here took the time to watch the Senate hearing today. Had you, you would have heard, on numerous occasions, abysmal enforcement of current law and a weak desire to prosecute criminals. But don’t let the facts get in the way. You are now free to continue making your organic deodorant, mixing your granola, and polishing your Birkenstocks.

    • RightWingWhacko

      Gun Rights folks always talk about the existing laws that aren’t enforced but never name the laws. So, here’s your chance to show us what we don’t know. Otherwise, find another excuse for doing zero on this issue.

      • drax
        • RightWingWhacko

          And I’ll ask the question again: What laws are not being enforced?

      • Jesus Shuttlesworth

        Federal law dictates a mandatory 15 year sentence for felons in posession of firearms. How many Crypts, Bloods, MS-13s, Latin Kings, et al are currently serving those sentences? Not many. Additionally, there were 80,000 denials of gun purchases through the background check system in 2010. There were only 44 prosecutions for lying on the form. As I mentioned, had you watched the hearing yesterday, you would’ve heard the U.S. Attorney for Colorado and the Police Chief of Milwaukee openly claim that they don’t consider it a viable law – they “don’t chase paper.” Law is law. Enforce them. Do your job.

        • speonjosh

          If it is mandatory, how are proposing that it is not being enforced? Judges are just unilaterally ignoring it?

          • novasteve

            Perhaps they weren’t charged with or convicted of being a felon in possession of a firearm? A judge can only sentence for crimes that are charged and convicted or plead to. Also, federal immigration lnaws are mandatory but you don’t see them heavily enforced either, hence why we have over 15,000,000 illegal aliens in the country.

        • speonjosh

          Don’t chase paper? You mean like the IRS doesn’t prosecute tax cheats? Or the cops won’t ticket you for driving without a license? Please.

      • Fast&Furious

        If the government was REALLY serious about reducing illegal gun trafficking, they would jail the government officials responsible for the Fast & Furious gun trafficking scheme to arm Mexican drug cartels. Instead, they are protecting those on the government payroll and using that and other atrocities by criminals and the insane to enact more laws to penalize law abiding citizens.

    • WhyWouldIGiveYouMyName

      Since when do they wear deodorant?

    • Mike Donatello

      That was the saddest display of bureaucratic malfeasance that I’ve seen in the last, oh, two weeks. Especially when we heard the response to Graham’s question about why known violators on NICS checks are not prosecuted: “We’re not going to get into a paper chase.” Really? Is it better to wait until it’s a manhunt for a murderer instead?

  • Id

    Ah, always inventing new terminology. “Gun violence” now instead of “Gun control.” Sounds less offensive.

    • drax

      Right, because gun violence isn’t offensive.

  • johnny b

    I don;t see any representation from TV or the movies??
    Gun violence should be removed or restricted to a minimum age of 21. Maybe require a license and background check….fail the check and G-rated family fare is all you get.
    It is a proven fact that the big and little screens influence folks to do things they normally wouldn’t do…..OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR LIABILITY DISCLAIMERS AT THE BOTTOM OF EVERY CAR COMMERCIAL….’PROFESSIONAL DRIVER ON A CLOSED COURSE, DON’T TRY THIS AT HOME!’

    Remember the movie “Heat”…DeNiro, Pacino, and Kilmer…..2 years later in real life we had ‘the north Hollywood Shootout’. Copycat fer sure.

    How about holding a pistol sideways, ‘gangsta style’…..never saw that in real life til after the movies and music videos….unfortunate side effect of that, according to the FBI, was an increase of innocent bystanders being hit in gang shootouts due to both the inherent lack of accuracy and the recoil of a gun held sideways being directed more on a horizontal track than vertical!

    I can see it now, Hollywood and the NRA joining forces and wallets to fight for the 1st and 2nd Amendments!

  • novasteve

    I’m hearing all these proposals about people who have been committed for mental illness, or even just a hospitalization, and then depriving them of the right to bear arms for life. You support anorexics and bulemics being denied firearms for lives or a gay teen who was bullied to the point of a suicide attempt? Not all mental illnesses are the same.

    • drax

      A reasonable comment. You should go tell Moran at this forum.

    • kalashnikev

      Doctors can not deprive you of your rights. No one can without due process. It takes a judge, which is why it’s called “adjudicated” mentally defective.

      Even if you *did* grant all Doctors the power to bless you with your rights, or take them away, you couldn’t get into patient medical records under the current laws… and then there’s that whole Hippocratic Oath thing…

      • drax

        All he was saying is that we shouldn’t treat all hospitalizations the same.

    • novasteve

      Our Neighbor to the North’s senate in MD has passed a comprehensive gun control plan that will ban anyone who has been involuntarily committed, INCLUDING ordered by a doctor (not a judge), from being able to own guns. The other legislature is expected to approve it as well. This means that if you are a gay teen who was bullied into being suicidal, and you are hospitalized for it, you will be deprived of owning guns for life, despite that “it gets better”.

  • Shlowmo

    When is Moran going to talk about reducing wife beating?

  • Westover

    I don’t think we have muh of a major gun violance thing going here in the 8th District. maybe, jim should get the President to do one in Chicago where guns are illegal already and shooting up someone every night.

    • novasteve

      That would be embarrassing becaucse it would show gun control isn’t preventing gun violence.

      • drax

        No it doesn’t. It’s possible that gun violence in Chicago would be even higher without gun control. You have to have a control to compare to.

        • novasteve

          So why have murder attempts gone done in DC since the Heller decision? There’s actually fewer people getting shot, not just fewer people dying (which could be explained by improved medical treatments).

  • novasteve

    Diane Feinstein opened her hearing showing fully automatic weapons firing and saying “and that’s legal today” making it seem like you can just go out and get a fully automatic weapon, which is absolutely untrue unless you are a licensed gun dealer. Michael Obama went to the funeral of a kid who performed at the inauguration that got killed in Chicago, and then went on ABC news and said that the child was killed by an automatic weapon, which is absolutely untrue. ABC news then edited that part out. There’s a LOT of dishonesty going on on the part of those calling for more gun control.

    • kalashnikev

      Check yo’self before you wreck yo’self, Steve. Thumbs Down.

      You don’t need any license to go full auto. You just need CASH and patience.

  • realreform

    How much do you all want to bet that retired ATF Special Agent David Chipman has his own privately owned AR-15 at his home and won’t be affected by any legislation against assault weapons? (Because they always exempt members or former members of law enforcement from such laws). Seems pretty hypocritical to me. But I guess they are more “special” than us regular minion citizens because he was a “trained” member of law enforcement.
    Maybe we should also create poll tests to make sure that citizens are smart enough to vote? (oh yeah, that was found as unconstitutional a long time ago).
    Or, maybe we should make sure that citizens have proper grammar tests or education levels to exercise freedom of speech?

    Or maybe the 2nd Amendment only applies to musket black powder rifles? So maybe we should only have a 2nd Amendment right to them?
    Just like we should only have a 1st Amendment right to Freedom of Speech through conversation and print media and snail mail (which was only available in the 1700′s. Nope, emails and cell phones and texts were not available back then, so the 1st Amendment does not apply to those too? So the government can snoop on your cell phone conversations or text messages because they did not have such technology back in the 1700′s?

    Or maybe the media does not have a 1st Amendment right to broadcast on television or the internet such as this website? Because they did not have that available back in the 1700′s too?

    If you think our government is overpowering and does not care about citizens interests now, and only special interests and lobbyists now, just imagine how bold and brazen they will be when they know citizens have no firearms. Yep, nothing to stand in their way. They could literally create an autocracy and there would be nothing you could do or say about it.

    Say it with me now…. Ya Mein Fuhrer!

    • uppity

      you honestly think citizens having guns “stands in the way” of democratically elected officials? That’s why we have elections. the second amendment does not give you the right to gun down government representatives because you disagree with them!

      • realreform

        What are you talking about? I didn’t say gunning down representatives. I said that by the mere fact that we DO have guns in this country ensures our freedom. That is why the Second Amendment was created in the first place. It was not for hunting. It was to protect us citizens from theoretical tyrannical governments that might try to take us over. You might think that this “theory” is outdated or archane, but too bad. It’s in the BILL OF RIGHTS! We have a RIGHT to own firearms. It is not a “privilege”. It is a human right to be able to own a gun. If you cannot protect yourself with a gun then you pretty much do not have any rights at all.

        • chciken chef

          paranoid much?

          • realreformist

            Trusting of the government a little too much??

    • kalashnikev

      Well said.

      1) We need to close the Law Enforcement Loophole. Police should not be able to posses weapons with greater destructive power than those that the citizens may arm themselves with.

      2) Our rights come from the power of the United States Constitution. They are not negotiable in anyway whatsoever.

      3) Disagree on one point though- the citizens will *always* have firearms. No one is going to disarm just because Obama says so. It will be like the prohibition era- only far more deadly. No Police or security force has the Will to violate the constitution- and if they did how many warrants could they serve per night? How strong would their Will be after they take heavy casualties the first time? And the second time? Would they live in some kind of government barracks or a Fort, or are they planning on living in the communities they attack?

  • realreform

    How much do you all want to bet that retired ATF Special Agent David Chipman has his own privately owned AR-15 at his home and won’t be affected by any legislation against assault weapons? (Because they always exempt members or former members of law enforcement from such laws). Seems pretty hypocritical to me. But I guess they are more “special” than us regular minion citizens because he was a “trained” member of law enforcement.

    Maybe we should also create poll tests to make sure that citizens are smart enough to vote? (oh yeah, that was found as unconstitutional a long time ago).

    Or, maybe we should make sure that citizens have proper grammar tests or education levels to exercise freedom of speech?

    Or maybe the 2nd Amendment only applies to musket black powder rifles? So maybe we should only have a 2nd Amendment right to them?

    Just like we should only have a 1st Amendment right to Freedom of Speech through conversation and print media and snail mail (which was only available in the 1700′s. Nope, emails and cell phones and texts were not available back then, so the 1st Amendment does not apply to those too? So the government can snoop on your cell phone conversations or text messages because they did not have such technology back in the 1700′s?

    Or maybe the media does not have a 1st Amendment right to broadcast on television or the internet such as this website? Because they did not have that available back in the 1700′s too?

    If you think our government is overpowering and does not care about citizens interests now, and only special interests and lobbyists now, just imagine how bold and brazen they will be when they know citizens have no firearms. Yep, nothing to stand in their way. They could literally create an autocracy and there would be nothing you could do or say about it.

    Say it with me now…. Ya Mein Fuhrer!

  • dm

    The culture has to change, not the laws. And, you can’t stop crazy.

  • Shooter

    Why not “People Violence?” It’s not the guns that are violent, it’s the people!

  • alex7070

    There is only one excuse for not carrying out the background checks required by law on every single sale or transfer of firearms, for letting background check loopholes remain in place, for not dealing with mentally ill people effectively, and for not turning back the clock on sales of military weapons to the public. That excuse is: A complete lack of common sense. No well-choreographed Senate hearing is going to fix this. It takes guts and metal to stand up.

    • Real World

      Since you’re mentioning “common sense,” then I’m sure you recognize that a private transaction cannot be policed with any effectiveness. I can sell you a car, right now, and never have to check to see if you’re a licensed driver, have insurance, or whether or not you have a wrap sheet with a thousand DUI’s.

      • alex7070

        I get that it’s not easy. How come we don’t have WMD being passed around – it’s because we take that very very seriously. We need to take weapons of war in our civilian life very seriously. Not even doing the checks is a road to nowhere.

  • Atticus Fisticuffs

    What will this forum consist of? Will people be able to pose questions or only be able to listen?

  • AMCIT

    Was there any consideration at all to inviting someone who could speak to the value of an armed citizenry in self-defense, child-protection, and violence-prevention efforts?

    • Ruth

      Of course not. Why would they want to be interupted with the facts?

  • Mike Donatello

    Interesting that the panel is fully stocked with the anti-gun crowd. I guess Moran et al. aren’t confident enough in the strength of their arguments to present any attempt at a balanced discussion.

  • Chris

    “When the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually. . . . I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor. . . .”

    George Mason

  • Victoria Bingham

    As the wise man said: We defend our: Presidents, Congressmen, Governors, Celebrities, Banks, Courts, Jewelry Stores and so on.. with guns; but our children we defend with a sign that says, ‘This is a Gun Free zone’. Then when there’s an emergency, we call someone with a gun.

  • TangledThorns

    I live in Reston and will try to go but this looks like a big liberal circle jerk.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003459231727 Scar Enthusiast

    Any pro-gun constituents besides me going to attend to provide some balance to this ‘community’ forum? I’ve got some ideas which Moran won’t necessarily like but I don’t want this “diverse panel of experts” to turn into a Second Amendment railroad job.

  • Phil

    Why does it seem the distinguished panel of experts are shewed to the anti-gun agenda? Can we get some pro-gun experts to balance the forum? After all we want a fair and balanced dialog.

  • AMCIT

    Glad there will be “experts”. My grandmother always said an “ex” is a has-been, and a “spert” is a drip under pressure.

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