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Armed march across Memorial Bridge… what could possibly go wrong?
  • Captain_Obvious May 6, 2013 - 1:32 pm #72231 Reply

    is this one of your typical rants or are you gonna provide proof ?

    novasteve May 6, 2013 - 1:44 pm #72232 Reply

    Well, I’m listening to the guy who created the gun on the BBC talking about he kn ows that liberals will go on screaming tantrums. And you know politicians want to look like they are doing something.

    But here’s your proof. Just ignore it, then personally attack me like you always do.

     

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-legislators-want-to-ban-plastic-guns-made-with-3d-printer/article11732870/

    Captain_Obvious May 6, 2013 - 1:47 pm #72234 Reply

    hmmmm, nothing about banning 3D printers there.  Nice try.  Move along and answer my other question.

    R. Griffon May 6, 2013 - 1:56 pm #72236 Reply

    Wow.  What a monumentally bad idea.  It’s sad to see Adam’s slow regression into extremism.  I thought he had a lot of good ideas about 5 years ago or so when he was one of the most vocal veteran voices against the Iraq war.  Sad.  It’s a far, far different thing to practice “peaceful civil disobedience” by assembling peacefully in a public space and refusing to leave when asked and carrying loaded weapons in clear violation of local laws in what I can only imagine is a hope to provoke an incident with authorities.  And on the 4th of July when many people and crowds are sure to be present.  That’s pretty much the definition of criminal negligence.

    @Kev: I had no idea what was going on in NY.  That’s scary stuff as a gun owner and rights supporter.  While I do think that they need to require background checks for ALL purchases (and am frustrated at our inability to do just that), these types of bans are a waste of everyone’s time at best.  And registration is typically a precursor to confiscation.  Also crazy that they were sending police to that man’s house to confiscate his legally owned firearms due to some mis-guided zero tolerance BS at school.  Where’s the due process?  Would he get a day in court to get them back?  I don’t use the term often, but that right there is “Un-American” in every sense of the word.

    @C_O: Yes, 3D printed guns is a very real thing.  I’m sure they’ll pass a law making it illegal, but the files to do so are simply software.  And banning software (or the illegal distribution thereof) works really well, right?  A logical person has to wonder what the point is of banning things that people can simply make at home themselves.  I’m not saying that guns should be totally unregulated, but everyone seems quick to reach for simple solutions when there are very few to be had.

    Captain_Obvious May 6, 2013 - 2:08 pm #72243 Reply

    oh jezz.  When you read this, pretend I’m saying it very slowly.  I know that 3D guns are real, I never said otherwise.  N_S said that libbies now want to ban 3D printers, which is not true according to the link that HE posted.

    And R Griff, I hope you read Kev’s article carefully, cause if you did, you would realize that NO guns were confiscated whatsoever.  I also asked the same question regarding if the police actually showed up to take the guns…I have my doubts.

    Funny how people spin things certain ways…

    KalashniKEV May 6, 2013 - 2:09 pm #72244 Reply

    What does/should happen if a gun owner starts having serious mental problems ?

    According to the way our laws have been structured by the Framers, Americans can only be stripped of their rights by “Due process of law.”

    This is why a person has to be “Adjudicated mentally defective” (as in, by a judge) in order to lose their right to bear arms… the same way a felon can’t vote or a sex offender can’t live near a school, etc.

    The family doctor down the road can’t do it. A member of the executive or legislative branch of government can’t do it (no matter how much they want to). This issue is further complicated by HIPAA (something new) and Physician-patient privilege (something old) which prevents the Health Care provider from going to an executive agent unless there exists a real-and-actual risk that the patient will harm his or herself and/or others.  That pesky right to privacy and all…

    It would appear that in the NY case, HIPAA was obviously breached.

    In the end, will any of it stop the next Ritalin kid from shooting up a Gun Free Zone? Nope.

    Back to the OP, I think the point could be just as easily made with rubber ducks, mock ups, or even broom sticks, with the message that unless the attacks stop the situation will continue to escalate.

    R. Griffon May 6, 2013 - 2:22 pm #72245 Reply

    C_O; You asked if “this” was another one of his rants and asked for proof.  You never specified whether you were questioning the possibility of 3D printed guns, or the fact that folks might want to ban the practice.  Plenty of people have trouble believing that you can simply print a gun.  It’s not unreasonable to think that you had a similar response since your post was not clear.

    And the article did very clearly state that the police announced their intention to confiscate.  He merely avoided it by transferring them to someone else, otherwise a reasonable person should expect that they would have been.  I’ve not known the police to notify people of their intent to come to their home to enforce the law with regards to firearms, and then simply forget to do so or look the other way.  I don’t see how “maybe they didn’t really mean it” is a viable defense.

    @Kev: And somebody needs a HIPAA lawsuit.  That guy needs to lawyer up and start with the FOIA requests pronto.

    KalashniKEV May 6, 2013 - 2:34 pm #72246 Reply

    It's sad to see Adam's slow regression into extremism.

    What’s sad is that this kind of radicalization has become the order of the day. Part of the bigger plan when buying votes with candy is to Balkanize the population into small special interest groups and minorities all fighting for their fix of bennies. So long as “We the people” are all fighting amongst each other, very few people are paying attention to the man behind the curtain- who in constantly increasing the size and power of government, and the depth of government intrusion.

    Occasionally, as is the case on Gun Control, the puppet on the left can get his sheep singing a chorus to strip the rights of the people, just like on other topics the puppet on the right can. It’s the same evil bloc pulling the strings though.

    And R Griff, I hope you read Kev's article carefully, cause if you did, you would realize that NO guns were confiscated whatsoever.

    Guns were “confiscated.” No warrants were served because the victims of the confiscation chose to willingly surrender their arms. Obviously not every single one of 55 million gun owning households is going to elect to slug it out with the Federales in the name of American freedom. Obviously opening yourself up to an inevitable raid on your domicile puts your family and other innocent lives at risk. NYers haven’t enjoyed the full power of the United States Constitution in quite some time. Their rights come with a bill attached, and some forms to fill out, and is printed on a card with an expiration or renewal date. When they pull your card, you can come get right with the law, or…

    novasteve May 6, 2013 - 2:43 pm #72247 Reply

    I have a friend, al iberal, who lives in Alexandria, and he text messaged everyone on his phone that he saw some guy open carrying, and how seeing the gun endangered his life and his freedoms, and all this irrational stuff. I asked him if he would prefer the guy were concealed carrying, which many do, and he avoided the question. Basically he doesn’t want anyone to have any gun who doesn’t wear a uniform. Seeing the gun somehow jeopardized his life,a nd there were MANY words of insult implying the guy was inbred, a “redneck” all the stuff he doesn’t like.

    Captain_Obvious May 6, 2013 - 2:47 pm #72248 Reply

    fair enough, R griff, but he did say “wanting to ban 3d printers” and that doesn’t sound believable to me.

    I’m sorry Kev, but you’re off on this one.  ZERO guns were confiscated and the title of the article is purposely misleading.  Dude transferred his guns to a gun store and a friend.  You and the article make it sound like the police or gubment came and took his guns from him, which is not true.

    @N_S…cool story bro.  Sucks when people avoid questions, am I right or am I right ?

    novasteve May 6, 2013 - 2:55 pm #72249 Reply
    Captain_Obvious May 6, 2013 - 3:09 pm #72251 Reply

    you said "wanting to ban 3d PRINTERS"…where’s the proof?  Its ok, there is none.  I know it, you know it, and so does everyone else.  Its just another example of your agenda.

    Sucks when people avoid questions, am I right or am I right ?

    KalashniKEV May 6, 2013 - 3:12 pm #72252 Reply

    I'm sorry Kev, but you're off on this one.  ZERO guns were confiscated and the title of the article is purposely misleading.

    Are you purposely responding to the Long Island incident and ignoring the Buffalo one?

    A 35 year old College librarian named David Lewis did in fact have seven firearms confiscated by state police because he was temporarily prescribed anti-anxiety meds by an unscrupulous health care provider.

     

    Captain_Obvious May 6, 2013 - 3:17 pm #72253 Reply

    I did ignore the buffalo one in my latest comment because it only called him John Doe and said his license was denied or suspended.  Do you have further info on this guy?  The article took a big tangent to the HIPAA stuff.

    Captain_Obvious May 6, 2013 - 3:21 pm #72255 Reply

    nevermind Kev, your boy got his guns back…link

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