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Bikes being ridden on the sidewalk
  • JamesE May 8, 2013 - 9:19 am #72507 Reply

    I do sprints down wilson in Clarendon back and forth on the sidewalk in front of crowded bars with my shirt off, not doing it for attention just feels good man.

    newty25 May 8, 2013 - 1:36 pm #72569 Reply

    I run and I ride. I use the sidewalk where it’s empty and I use the bike lane when there is congestion.

    But, if sidewalks are for walking and bike lanes are for biking (thanks ARLWahoo!), then running on both must okay.

    I usually only run on the trails, but you need roads to get to the trail. So, running on one or the other is unavoidable for me.

    novasteve May 8, 2013 - 1:40 pm #72571 Reply

    Parkways are for parking.


    Did anyone notice that the ACPD or the Sheriff’s office put one of those portable radar speed display things in the bike lane on Barton? I guess enough people complained and they moved it towards teh corner by where the bags of bread were.


    Michael H. May 8, 2013 - 3:04 pm #72587 Reply

    NS, you’ve said more than enough on this topic, none of it useful.

    novasteve May 8, 2013 - 3:31 pm #72595 Reply

    So Michael H you are cool with police equipment blocking b ike lanes since i brought it up?

    ARLwahoo May 8, 2013 - 3:42 pm #72598 Reply

    Nothing should be in the bike lanes besides bikes.  How would everyone feel if I just left my bike in the middle of the sidewalk or the road?  It is extremely, EXTREMELY dangerous for me to be flying down a hill doing 15-20mph and all of the sudden a runner decides he’d like to run in my lane, with earphones in.  Other bikers I can ride behind until it’s safe to pass, but the runner, I have to basically come to a stop because he doesn’t want to run on the side streets (where there are no bike lanes for me to ride safely in) or run on the sidewalk.  I guess he/she feels they’re too important to stop and get around people on the sidewalk and must use someone else’s resources (bikers’ lane).  Rude.

    Captain_Obvious May 8, 2013 - 3:45 pm #72600 Reply

    your last sentence is classic cyclist smugness.

    newty25 May 8, 2013 - 4:20 pm #72614 Reply

    Yeah. This is obviously a commuter and not a serious rider or health enthusiast. Most people who run and bike think like me: share the resources we have. Smug commuters like ARLwahoo believe they “own” a portion of the road, trail, or sidewalk.

    I’m a competent enough rider that runners in the bike lane don’t bother me at all, especially since I know why they’re there. I would assume he thinks runners pose a threat because he’s not very competent.

    Michael H. May 8, 2013 - 4:51 pm #72618 Reply

    NS, I’m not cool with your obnoxious attitude that somehow it’s a crime against humanity when a cyclist runs a STOP sign but it’s OK when a car driver runs through a red light, speeds or texts while driving, when that attitude results in tens of thousands of deaths of innocent Americans each and every year. And then your tag team partner spins the incident of the elderly gentleman accidentally killing an elderly woman into a widespread threat from Lance wannabes. That provides some sort of justification for the aggressive driving and anti-cyclist approach that gets so many Americans killed.

    But oh no, car driving is patriotic and all-American, according to you, so that’s OK. Well, no, it isn’t.

    novasteve May 8, 2013 - 4:55 pm #72622 Reply

    You have some serious issues Michael. I was referring to a a RADAR SPEED DETECTOR blocking the bike lane on Barton street. Apparently people complained because they moved it. I also have no tag team partner on here.

    Michael H. May 8, 2013 - 5:32 pm #72629 Reply


    Michael H. May 8, 2013 - 5:34 pm #72630 Reply

    And you don’t seem to be defending your earlier statement that cyclists don’t obey traffic laws. “Period.” Completely misleading when you ignore or excuse all the car drivers who ignore those laws too, And kill because they do so.

    novasteve May 8, 2013 - 6:02 pm #72632 Reply

    What % of cyclists do you think stop at stop signs let alone red lights?

    Michael H. May 8, 2013 - 6:40 pm #72636 Reply

    I have no idea. I know many do go through Stop signs. I also know that at about one of every 3 or 4 intersections that I approach as a pedestrian, a car will run the red light. So when a driver has the opportunity, he or she will run the red light almost 25-33% of the time in my experience. Then there’s the fact that the vast majority of drivers speed every single day. I’m not talking about 2 mph over the limit. I’m talking about 5-10 mph, or even 15-20 mph, including on local roads. I’ve seen drivers going at an estimated 40 or 50 mph in a 25 mph zone. (I don’t have a speed gun so I don’t know the exact number. But those cars are zooming past others that are driving around the speed limit.)

    The fact is that you think there should be zero tolerance for cyclists but it’s OK for drivers to continue to speed, drive while texting (which I see ALL THE TIME), run red lights, speed into right turns on red without even bothering to slow down or look for pedestrians in the other crosswalk (which I also see very frequently) and driving while drunk or high. Ideally everyone should follow the laws. But it’s completely outrageous and misleading for you to continue to harp on cyclists going through Stop signs and failing to bring up the massive and deadly problem of car drivers ignoring traffic laws. Worse, a significant minority of drivers have an extremely aggressive attitude and approach to driving, going out of their way to intimidate and force other users out of the way, including drivers forcing pedestrians out of crosswalks (when the pedestrians have a WALK signal and already started walking in the crosswalk before the car driver even neared the intersection).

    And yet, you continue to act as though cyclists failing to stop at a STOP sign is the worst infraction on the public roads (which are NOT completely paid for through gas taxes or car registration fees!). No, the tens of thousands of deaths on U.S. roads are the biggest problem.

    All this is separate from the fact that the sedentary lifestyle that driving everywhere, including one-mile trips to the store, play a significant role in the obesity problem in this and other countries. Think that’s not my problem? Well, we spend $200 billion a year to treat AVOIDABLE health problems related to inactivity and bad diet: diabetes, high blood pressure, early-onset heart disease, etc. Who pays? Anyone who pays gov’t health taxes and private insurance premiums. So other people are forced to subsidize unhealthy living that others choose. Tell me why that’s fair? And tell me why it’s acceptable to drive aggressively and recklessly when that results in so many deaths, but you get so outraged by a cyclist running a Stop sign. Why? Because you have this irrational hatred of cycling (along with l-i-b-e-r-a-l-s and T-h-i-r-d W-o-r-l-d-e-r-s). You get all out of sorts because you think a homeless shelter is going to lead to mentally ill individuals pushing people off Metro platforms. That happens, what, a couple times a year nationwide. But then you are completely silent about the ongoing deadly carnage caused EVERY DAY in this country because of car drivers.

    Michael H. May 8, 2013 - 6:45 pm #72637 Reply

    So what’s the bigger concern: 2 or 3 people pushed off of subway platforms in the entire U.S. a year, or 93 people getting killed by car drivers each and every single day? The car-caused deaths are somehow OK because you think of car drivers as white, middle to upper class and the subway deaths are caused by mentally ill and possibly minority individuals. Is that the real reason? That’s disgusting and vile, frankly.

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