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How many of the Halal restaurants, which there are many of here in Arlington, do you think support gay marriage?

You didn't mention anything about a ban, or a boycott, but will if you did, would you support banning or boycotting them as well?

The most interesting thing about all of this is that I didn't see a drop in traffic at BP after the oil spill. I don't see Citgo losing any business after it was brought to the attention of everyone that Venezuela owns it and their leader is wildly anti-American. What shifted in society that gay marriage rights trump the environment and economy?

And no, it doesn't affect me one bit. If people did a little research about their favorite companies in any industry, they'd probably find something that upset them. The guy or girl at the ballston Chick-fil-a isn't gonna preach while my food is being prepared, he's just gonna smile and say “my pleasure” a lot. 

…and not a single f**k was given that day.

People (including business owners) can say or do whatever they feel like. As long as they and their businesses don't discriminate or break the law, I really don't care. Likewise, people can patronize whichever business they choose. Democrat mayors trying to block Chik-fil-a from building stores in their cities (and Republican mayors encouraging it in theirs in light of the owner's statement) is out of line.

dynaroo said:

I boycott them (and it's about more than just their views – they give money to hate organizations – yes, groups that hate gays, not just that politely oppose gay marriage) but trying to keep them out of your town is too much.

Right on. I made the same point in a now-burried ChickfilA thread. It would be impossible to give your money only to people who agree with you. Many members of my family hold the same views as ChickfilA management, but as long as they're just views and not activism I'm not really going to fight them over it. (Besides, anyone ever try to change the mind of a 70-year-old Midwestern conservative?) Of course there's a slippery slope once you consider voting etc, but we can all draw the line where we want. For me, that line comes at funding and lobbying for hate.

Anyway, add another “lib” who thinks government bans aren't the right approach. Maybe Steve's head will explode when he realizes liberals don't comport with his straw man version of one. 

Thing is “hate” is subjective. Can you really say someone hates homosexuals if they don't support same sex marriage?

Do the people who oppose circumcision hate jews and muslims?

 If you oppose kashrut or halal slaughter, do you hate jews and muslims?

What about the athiest organizations that are actively anti religion. They put up signs mocking religions, etc. Is that “hate”? they still have a right to do it, like religions have a right to have views you don't agree with. But is it hate if a athiest group does something? I meanthey do some stuff where I could completely agree with religious people that what they do is hateful. But I don't hear about people talking about boycotting let alone banning businesses that are run by athiests, etc..

novasteve said:

Thing is “hate” is subjective. Can you really say someone hates homosexuals if they don't support same sex marriage?

 

Do the people who oppose circumcision hate jews and muslims?

 If you oppose kashrut or halal slaughter, do you hate jews and muslims?

 

What about the athiest organizations that are actively anti religion. They put up signs mocking religions, etc. Is that “hate”? they still have a right to do it, like religions have a right to have views you don't agree with. But is it hate if a athiest group does something? I meanthey do some stuff where I could completely agree with religious people that what they do is hateful. But I don't hear about people talking about boycotting let alone banning businesses that are run by athiests, etc..

 

Interesting how today “hate” is subjective but yesterday it was obvious.  Not wanting to breathe smoke in my condo automatically meant I hate smokers.  It's always good when you can make up your own rules each day to suit your wild arguments. 

novasteve said:

Thing is “hate” is subjective. Can you really say someone hates homosexuals if they don't support same sex marriage?

 Yes, because they are denying them equal rights (often on the basis of subjective religious interpretation). Homosexuals are told they're unnatural, going to hell, should try harder to be straight and so on.

Do the people who oppose circumcision hate jews and muslims?

No, they don't like circumcision, which may have religious roots but isn't exclusive to religious people or a particular ethnic group.

 If you oppose kashrut or halal slaughter, do you hate jews and muslims?

No, you're probably just a vegetarian. But if this ever actually becomes an issue, we'll talk.

What about the athiest organizations that are actively anti religion. They put up signs mocking religions, etc. Is that “hate”? they still have a right to do it, like religions have a right to have views you don't agree with. But is it hate if a athiest group does something? I meanthey do some stuff where I could completely agree with religious people that what they do is hateful. But I don't hear about people talking about boycotting let alone banning businesses that are run by athiests, etc..

Really, you're going to pretend that religious people are more persecuted than atheists? Start telling everyone you're an atheist and let us know how that works out for you. The reason some atheists choose to be more aggressive is to push back against things like religiously motivated opposition to equal rights and teaching creationism in schools. But more obviously, there are a**holes in every group, so don't generalize.