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  • fedworker October 1, 2013 - 11:01 am #89037 Reply

    I’m hoping that there’s an OPM type who can help me understand the furlough decision letter that I conveniently received on my bbrry at 12:06 a.m.

    The first paragraph reads:

    This memorandum is to advise you that Congress has not passed an appropriation for Fiscal Year 2014, or a continuing resolution, by October 1, 2013; therefore, you will be furloughed for a period not to exceed 30 calendar days. The furlough will begin today, October 1, 2013.

    So assuming the worst case scenario that the jackasses on the Hill can’t get their s**t together, does anyone know what happens to us non-excepted feds after October 1 should gridlock continue?

    Swag October 1, 2013 - 11:05 am #89041 Reply

    You mean November 1? The shutdown won’t last that long. There’s another debt ceiling crisis scheduled for mid-October, so they’ll either clean up this CR mess before then so they can prep for that battle or they’ll deal with them both at the same time.

    fedworker October 1, 2013 - 11:15 am #89045 Reply

    Ah, yes, November 1.  Meant to say after October 31 but the “3″ went missing due to the furlough!  And I agree that its highly unlikely that the shutdown will last beyond this week….which I’m ok with, for now,  since I could use a little time off.  I never thought I’d be a supporter of Moran, but he’s pushing for retroactive pay. Now that would be sweet.

    Dezlboy October 1, 2013 - 11:20 am #89047 Reply

    @fedworker, under OPM rules if furloughs extend beyond 30 calendar days or more than 22 discontinuous work days, the furlough is then handled under reduction-in-force (RIF) procedures.  However, if you were furloughed this year already, those days count as part of the 22 discontinuous work days.  For example, if you were furloughed for four days this summer AND the current shutdown lasts 18 days, then your organization goes into RIF mode.

    Here’s the wacky part.  Let’s say you have senority over an excepted employee (one who is still working as they are essential).  OMB can “offer” you that person’s job. What I don’t know is if you decline the offer, do you remain furloughed as you are now and simply go back to your old job when the furlough is over? Or if you take the “essential” job do you go back to old job when furlough over?  If we get to that point, we will surely (?!) get the info we need……

    fedworker October 1, 2013 - 11:32 am #89050 Reply

    An EPA employee interviewed on TV had the best quote of the day, “Members of Congress need to be bent over and spanked really hard because they’re all acting like a bunch of spoiled children.” (roughly paraphrased).

     

    fedworker October 1, 2013 - 11:34 am #89052 Reply

    Thanks much Dezl!

     

    Captain_Obvious October 1, 2013 - 11:39 am #89055 Reply

    "Members of Congress need to be bent over and spanked really hard because they're all acting like a bunch of spoiled children."

    This is a good idea, since spanking is the only form of discipline that works.

    Theakston October 1, 2013 - 11:54 am #89058 Reply

    They would enjoy it too much. Most of them pay for a good spanking now and then.

    Tabby_TwoTone October 1, 2013 - 12:09 pm #89060 Reply

    Theakston, you know this from experience?

    fedworker October 1, 2013 - 12:17 pm #89064 Reply

    OPM Job Announcement 20131001-1:  CONGRESSIONAL SPANKER, GS-15 (Positions: 535; POD: Washington, DC). No experience necessary.

    Dezlboy October 1, 2013 - 12:26 pm #89065 Reply

    barticus October 1, 2013 - 12:48 pm #89069 Reply

    As a former budget analyst at DOL, I’ve dealt with OPM (a tiny bit of it) and taken Approps Law.  And yes, I’m at home today.

    @fedworker, I have no idea what that message means.  No appropriation absolutely means no obligation, which in this case is us returning to work.  So if there’s no appropriation passed 40 days from now, we can be permitted to start work again.  This is not disputable.  It’s black letter law.

    My guess is someone at OPM got their lack of funding text mixed up with sequestration next.  Under sequestration, there might be a 30-day furlough cap.

    KalashniFOOL October 1, 2013 - 12:50 pm #89070 Reply

    "Members of Congress need to be bent over and spanked really hard because they're all acting like a bunch of spoiled children."

    Need to wait for states to shutdown too.  CPS is a state function.

    Anonymous October 1, 2013 - 1:44 pm #89081 Reply

    “So if there's no appropriation passed 40 days from now, we can be permitted to start work again.”

    Did you mean “we can’t”?

    nom de guerre October 1, 2013 - 1:51 pm #89084 Reply

    Need to wait for states to shutdown too.  CPS is a state function.

    Does CPS stand for Congressional Protective Services?

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