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Further proof automatic transmissions enable incompetence
  • novasteve April 13, 2012 - 10:58 am #48266 Reply

    http://wtop.com/?nid=289&…..id=2825959

     

    You can't even do this with a manual. YOu need your foot on both the gas peddle and the clutch for a manual to move from a standstill.

    Razbo Oscar April 13, 2012 - 11:07 am #48267 Reply

    novasteve said:

    http://wtop.com/?nid=289&…..id=2825959

     

    You can't even do this with a manual. YOu need your foot on both the gas peddle and the clutch for a manual to move from a standstill.

    Proof? That article sites results from a government study. And the government has never had an agenda or lied about things before?

    novasteve April 13, 2012 - 11:08 am #48268 Reply

    Razbo Oscar said:

    novasteve said:

    http://wtop.com/?nid=289'…..id=2825959

     

    You can’t even do this with a manual. YOu need your foot on both the gas peddle and the clutch for a manual to move from a standstill.

    Proof? That article sites results from a government study. And the government has never had an agenda or lied about things before?

    Ahh, you drive an automatic don't you? What's it like to not know how to drive a car?

    JamesE April 13, 2012 - 11:09 am #48269 Reply

    If I leave my car in 1st and let the clutch out sans gas it will start and jolt forward.

    novasteve April 13, 2012 - 11:19 am #48270 Reply

    JamesE said:

    If I leave my car in 1st and let the clutch out sans gas it will start and jolt forward.

    Are you honestly confused releasing the clutch with the gas pedal or brakes?

     

    This study is about someone (obviously driving an automatic) that misses the brakes and his the gaspedal.

     

    That's practically impossible to do with a manual. In fact, don't even forget, that in an automatic, if you release the brakes, the car will start moving. That doesn't happen with a manual. Add in then the gas pedal, and you really have some movement that will wind up rear ending another car. The only negative with a manual is on hills, but since you drive a stick, you are more competent to begin with, so it's not an issue. I've seen people in automatics have bigger rollback issues than stick drivers. Automatics enable incompetent drivers to be on the road.

    Swag April 13, 2012 - 11:39 am #48271 Reply

    So, is there a point to this thread? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm happy to have things to help pass the time on a Friday, but you really couldn't do any better than this? You used to be cool, n-steve. Now it's like you just can't be bothered to put any effort into your mindless ranting.

     

    I'm disappointed in you.

    Bluemontsince1961 April 13, 2012 - 11:55 am #48272 Reply

    Swag said:

    So, is there a point to this thread? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm happy to have things to help pass the time on a Friday, but you really couldn't do any better than this? You used to be cool, n-steve. Now it's like you just can't be bothered to put any effort into your mindless ranting.

     

    I'm disappointed in you.

    Its like a chihuahua on crack.

    novasteve April 13, 2012 - 12:14 pm #48273 Reply

    Swag said:

    So, is there a point to this thread? I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to have things to help pass the time on a Friday, but you really couldn’t do any better than this? You used to be cool, n-steve. Now it’s like you just can’t be bothered to put any effort into your mindless ranting.

     

    I’m disappointed in you.

    If you don't want to discuss the topic, why do you reply to it?

    CW April 13, 2012 - 12:37 pm #48274 Reply

    novasteve should not be allowed to speak on certain subjects; however, he should be appointed Arlington County's czar for fast food restaurants and international grocery stores, his taste in which I rather agree with.  

    Swag April 13, 2012 - 12:47 pm #48275 Reply

    novasteve said:

    Swag said:

    So, is there a point to this thread? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm happy to have things to help pass the time on a Friday, but you really couldn't do any better than this? You used to be cool, n-steve. Now it's like you just can't be bothered to put any effort into your mindless ranting.

     

    I'm disappointed in you.

    If you don't want to discuss the topic, why do you reply to it?

    My reply didn't involve the topic and, frankly, could be copy/pasted in almost any of your threads. While you do, on occasion, post relevant threads that don't devolve into you vs. normal people, they are few and far between. Your trolling…there's just no art to it–no subtlety. I know eight year-olds who can troll better than you. I mean, you're so bad at trolling you don't even realize how hard I'm trolling you… For shame.

    Swag April 13, 2012 - 12:50 pm #48276 Reply

    CW said:

    novasteve should not be allowed to speak on certain subjects; however, he should be appointed Arlington County's czar for fast food restaurants and international grocery stores, his taste in which I rather agree with.  

    Agreed. His original threads are usually, if not useful, at least benign, but any time he links to some article about something it ends up being a disaster. There are plenty of forums dedicated to that kind of posting–this isn't one of them.

    CW April 13, 2012 - 12:50 pm #48277 Reply

    “They see me trollin', they hatin”…

    redstang423 April 13, 2012 - 12:58 pm #48278 Reply

    That's actually completely possible to do in a manual. I have only owned manual transmission cars for about 5 years. The vast majority of the time I'm traveling at a slow speed, like in a parking lot, I have the clutch fully engaged, and I'm usually in first gear.  I never have, but it is possible I would get confused and hit the gas before the brake, therefore shooting forward. I rarely hit the gas and brake simultaneously, even when slowing down from traffic speeds. I use the clutch as little as possible, to be honest. Once in a while, I don't even use the clutch to shift. Also, remember there is much less resistance to hitting the gas pedal than the brake, so the same effort will send you shooting forward very fast if you accidentally hit the wrong pedal. 

    I'd actually argue it would be easier to miss the pedal in a manual since the pedals – especially the brake – are smaller.

    courthound April 13, 2012 - 2:28 pm #48279 Reply

    I’ve been driving manual transmission cars for 20+ years. On a few occasions have I let out the clutch without giving it enough gas and yes, it will indeed stall and lurch 3-4 feet forward (if in 1st) or backward (if reverse) if you do not hit the gas/clutch sweet spot.

    But that’s not the point of this post. The point of it is that Steve is better than you because he can drive a manual transmission.

    Bluemontsince1961 April 13, 2012 - 3:18 pm #48280 Reply

    courthound said:

    But that's not the point of this post. The point of it is that Steve is better than you because he can drive a manual transmission.

    While at the same time of driving said stick shift posting multiple anti-liberal rants on ARLnow and telling anyone that does not 1000000% agree totally with him without a millimeter of difference from his position that such a person/persons are not capable of “independent thought”, “defending 'liberals'”, “letting others tell them what is best” are “sheep”, and telling people that smoke on the front porches of their homes that one day the KGB/Gestapo/NKVD/Big Bad Boogie Man will outlaw said persons from smoking on their front porches or anywhere on the outside of their own property.

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