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Hey Walmart – If DC doesn't want you, we'll take you!
  • novasteve July 11, 2013 - 10:45 am #79571 Reply

    Does anyone not see the equal protection issues here or do you  only care about equal protection issues when liberal special status groups are impacted? You know the arlington board would love to put the same conditions on Walmart if they had the power to do so.

    Dezlboy July 11, 2013 - 11:01 am #79586 Reply

    @John Fountain, others.  I made the decision not to shop at Walmart because of their employee practices. But, then again, very “liberal” friends shop there with this reasoning. The store is already there, it employ people. Thus by shopping there, I am ensuring the continued employement of those people, tax revenues for the city, and I get good prices. So, it’s win-win.

    I think the best way to “fix” the problem is before a Walmart goes in, not after.

    Captain_Obvious July 11, 2013 - 11:02 am #79587 Reply

    SHOCKER !!  NS brings politics into this discussion.

    Sunshine July 11, 2013 - 11:04 am #79589 Reply

    I think college students might want to work there if the hours are flexible enough to work around their classes. Some people might want to pick up a part-time job or a second job. Do they offer a discount to their employees? That’s an added bonus if it is offered; especially since they sell groceries. But I suppose I really can’t comment on their business practices. I haven’t really taken the time to become informed.  I’m sort of anti-big box in general but they are good for some things. I wouldn’t buy groceries there but when I am in Target I see lots of people buying them so they must be decent.

    Anonymous July 11, 2013 - 11:10 am #79592 Reply

    Equal protection? How? You mean the living wage law in DC? It applies to everyone, not a certain class of people.

    John Fontain July 11, 2013 - 11:11 am #79593 Reply

    okfuskee – Thanks for the link to that article.  It’s a good read.  Product manufacturers want to charge consumers as high a price for their product as they can.  They should (it’s capitalism) and I don’t blame them for that.  Similarly, many retailers follow a business strategy of charging consumers the highest price they can get away with.  I don’t blame them for doing that either.

    And then you have Walmart, who long ago decided to take a different approach.  Rather than trying to take advantage of the consumer as much as possible, they decided to work on behalf of the consumer and to charge the lowest price they could charge while still providing a return for shareholders.  I’m not sure why this isn’t lauded by more people.

     

    novasteve July 11, 2013 - 11:15 am #79595 Reply

    how does it apply to everyone is it is tailored to only apply to walmart? Why are union joints exempted?

    Anonymous July 11, 2013 - 11:15 am #79596 Reply

    Sunshine, Walmart is the largest civilian employer in America, with almost a million employees. It employs many more people than just college students or part-timers.

    It has succeeded in socializing much of its labor costs by offering low wages and few benefits and keeping out unions that would win those things, sending thousands and thousands of people – working people – to get taxpayer-funded assistance that we all pay for. So in the big picture, it’s not much of a bargain for either working people or taxpayers.

     

    Anonymous July 11, 2013 - 11:18 am #79597 Reply

    “how does it apply to everyone is it is tailored to only apply to walmart? Why are union joints exempted?”

    It applies to anyone who works at Walmart or other large retailers.

    Walmart is not a special class of people, or a person at all. Equal protection doesn’t apply.

    Union employers are exempt because unions have the power to negotiate their pay and benefits on their own.

    novasteve July 11, 2013 - 11:25 am #79600 Reply

    sansabelt:

    You can’t possibly be serious. You can’t be.

     

    Single out a  single employer, then deny they are being treated differently. How you will just deny democrat thuggery if you like the result.. Pathetic.

    Anonymous July 11, 2013 - 11:25 am #79601 Reply

    John wrote: “And then you have Walmart, who long ago decided to take a different approach.  Rather than trying to take advantage of the consumer as much as possible, they decided to work on behalf of the consumer and to charge the lowest price they could charge”

    By taking advantage of the workers and the taxpayers instead.

    I’m not saying Walmart shouldn’t do what’s in its best interests, but what they do isn’t in the best interests of the taxpayers or workers, and in the long run, the consumers or the economy in general. It’s a downward spiral that’s only going to hurt business in the long run.

    They can charge low prices without taking it out of their workers. Costco is a good model – it manages to pay its employees decent wages and provide benefits. And that has helped make Costco better.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wo2lcd3BaI

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/04/17/walmart-pays-workers-poorly-and-sinks-while-costco-pays-workers-well-and-sails-proof-that-you-get-what-you-pay-for/

     

    novasteve July 11, 2013 - 11:27 am #79604 Reply

    Union employers are exempt because unions have the power to negotiate their pay and benefits on their own.”

    So you have to be in a union to be able to negotiate your pay and benefits? And if you aren’t in a union, the government has the right to play the role of a private actor to do it for you?

     

    Wow. UNBELELIABLE. Do you have the Internationale playing in the background? Red banners around?

     

    I hope DC sufferss. liberals won’t be able to blame anyone else this time

    Anonymous July 11, 2013 - 11:28 am #79606 Reply

    NS: “Single out a  single employer, then deny they are being treated differently.”

    Okay, steve, I’m only going to explain this ONCE. If you fail to grasp it, I’m not going to keep trying.

    Yes, an employer is being treated differently. But employers are not covered by the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. Only people are.

    Any all all people who work for that employer are covered by this law, therefore there is no equal protection issue.

    You’re a lawyer, figure it out.

    Anonymous July 11, 2013 - 11:31 am #79608 Reply

    “So you have to be in a union to be able to negotiate your pay and benefits?”

    For many workers, yes. Most Walmart workers have absolutely no power to negotiate. They take it or leave it. You think a Walmart clerk goes in to apply for a job and says “I’ll accept this job, but only at this level of pay, and I want health care too?”

    “And if you aren’t in a union, the government has the right to play the role of a private actor to do it for you?”

    The government has a right to require employers to provide certain basic, minimum things when the worker has no power to get it himself. Yes. That’s hardly communism, but if you think otherwise, I don’t really care.

     

     

    Dezlboy July 11, 2013 - 11:32 am #79609 Reply

    @NS wrote, “sansabelt: You can’t possibly be serious. You can’t be. Single out a  single employer, then deny they are being treated differently. How you will just deny democrat thuggery if you like the result.. Pathetic.”

    NS….please…please…please…please…give it a break.  Or better yet, check out my reply on the Governor thread.  Take my challenge?  And, haven’t heard back if after a year of no fatalities on the streetcar (as you insist fatality will happen), you then don’t smoke for 365 days?  You are so good at stating stuff and not backing it up.

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