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Hey Walmart – If DC doesn't want you, we'll take you!
  • John Fontain July 11, 2013 - 12:30 pm #79639 Reply

    CourthouseChris said: “never said nobody else should have the right to make a decision that differs from mine”

    Well good, then you should have no reason to object to a Walmart in Arlington and to letting consumers and prospective employees decide for themselves, right?

    novasteve July 11, 2013 - 12:33 pm #79640 Reply

    Socialists believe the state should be making your choices for you (except for liberal sacraments). If theyd on’t approve, it needs to be banned. They don’t approve of Walmart, so you know what needs to happen. Remember the entire chick fil a thing last year and liberals going insane, threatening to ban it from entire cities because they dare  to have someone who doesn’t share the liberal line work there?

    Dezlboy July 11, 2013 - 12:35 pm #79641 Reply

    I have two observations:

    1. A consumer purchase is far more complicated than it appears if one considers various factors (producer, retailer, provider, environment, employees, wages, taxes, etc). The Walmart vs The Other Guy is a perfect example.

    2. NS gets less rational and more unpredictable (or rather, gets more predictable) as the week goes on.  By Thursday mornings, well, whatever, eh?

    3. @NS wrote, ” Somebody owes me something!”   Yep, someone probably does.  :-)


    Captain_Obvious July 11, 2013 - 12:39 pm #79642 Reply

    NS, do you have any openings in your economics class that you teach at the local university ?

    Captain_Obvious July 11, 2013 - 12:42 pm #79643 Reply

    @dezl, that’s cause NS lives in messageboard fantasy land.  He spends so much time on them, that they become his formed opinions about what he likes and doesn’t like.

    John Fontain July 11, 2013 - 12:47 pm #79644 Reply

    sansabelt – you supported your claim that Walmart pays below average wages (on page 1) by linking to an almost 10 year old “study” paid for by competitors and related strictly to the state of California.  Do you have any more recent studies more broad in scope that are independent and, therefore, more reliable?  Thanks.   For what it is worth, Walmart says the following:

    “Walmart’s wages are at or above the retail industry average. In addition to competitive pay, our benefits include a 401K plan with a company match, education assistance, merchandise discounts and health care. Health care plans are available to eligible hourly associates starting at $17 per pay period. All employees -- full and part time -- receive quarterly bonus opportunities based on store performance. Last year, these bonuses earned by hourly associates totaled more than $770 million.”

    If you have recent, factual, information that disputes this I’d be interested in reading it.  It would be a real shame if people who oppose Walmart for allegedly taking advantage of employees were in fact being duped by “studies” paid for by the very competitors of Walmart whose business strategies are to charge consumers the highest price they can get away with.  That would be a real shame.

    novasteve July 11, 2013 - 12:48 pm #79645 Reply

    And you would know this how CO? EVen if I were the person you accuse me of being, doesn’t it speak about you about the amount of time you spend searching for someone you think is me especially taking into account how much you claim to hate me and my posts? Why would a rational person go seek out someone they can’t stand? Oh wait. i forgot, you are mentally disturbed.

    novasteve July 11, 2013 - 12:49 pm #79646 Reply

    Why aren’t you people demanding that the restaurants you frequent, OFTEN. Oh yes, you people are constantly eating out. to pay their employees a living wage? They pay a LOT worse than walmart, yet you are SILENT.


    Completely silent.

    John Fontain July 11, 2013 - 1:00 pm #79647 Reply

    To those who oppose Walmart because you believe their low prices come on the back of employees who should be paid more: When making other purchases, do you similarly go with the high bid because you believe it will result in the employee being paid more?

    For example, if you get three quotes to build a fence or to fix a leaky faucet, do you intentionally pick the highest bid to ensure that the employees of get paid more?  When you purchase an airline ticket, do you seek a higher priced ticket to help ensure airline employees get paid more?  When you buy a car, do you pick the dealer who gives you the highest “out the door price” to help those employees receive the highest sales commission?  When you get rate quotes for a refi on your mortgage, do you select the bank with the highest rate?

    I ask these questions in all seriousness and would like to hear your answers.

    Captain_Obvious July 11, 2013 - 1:04 pm #79648 Reply

    Because you told all of us on June 28th as “nomoremrnicebeta”:  http://www.arlnow.com/topic/novasteve-is-beautiful/

    That profile happened to be created on the same day you said you were gonna “vanish for a while”.  And the amount of time I’ve spent is equal to about 10 minutes, plenty of time for me to determine what kind of person you are.

    Dezlboy July 11, 2013 - 1:16 pm #79650 Reply

    @NS wrote, “Why aren't you people demanding that the restaurants you frequent, OFTEN. Oh yes, you people are constantly eating out. to pay their employees a living wage? They pay a LOT worse than walmart, yet you are SILENT.”

    Apples and Oranges, Mr NS.  Wages from cash versus Wages from cash and tips.

    In Virginia, servers are guaranteed by Federal Law a minimum hourly wage of $7.25 that includes cash (employer paid) and tips.  The restaurant is allowed to apply the maximum of $5.12 of the server’s hourly tips towards this minimum wage amount. The minimum cash wage is $2.13. Thus, a server in VA is guaranteed a wage of $7.25 per hour, but that amount can increase without limit as the server’s tips increase.

    The DC minimum wage (cash)  is $8.25. And the Council wants WALMART to start at $12.50. 

    I think most servers can make up the different between their minimum $7.25 and the highest WALMART wage (per DC Council) of $12.50, by getting at least $5.25 cents more in tips per hour.  Thus, I suspect the average server would make more per hour than the Walmart employee.

    No one is remaining silent upon hearing your “cry wolf” howls at the moon.


    Jotorious July 11, 2013 - 1:16 pm #79651 Reply

    @John Fontain,

    Your question is a good one. Am I willing to pay more for a product to ensure a livable wage for the laborer? Yes. I am willing to pay more if it ensures a living wage. HOWEVER, paying more doesn’t necessarily ensure a living wage. That is why I prefer Government Policy over individually scrutinizing every company and doing analysis of it’s compensation structure.

    novasteve July 11, 2013 - 1:18 pm #79654 Reply

    That was me CO? How desperate are you? You are now posting a link to a topic the moderators DELETED. You are psychotic. You are obsessed. Are you going ot make more threats like you did a couple days ago?


    Your mental illness gets clearer and clearer. Perhaps you can create another account to try to reveal other posters personal information and accuse them of being people? How stupid would I have to be do have done that? Do you think anyone believes that was anyone but you? How stupid, i would have to be the stupidest person on earth to have been that poster.


    Now go obsesss some more. GO obsess. because that’s probably the only thing you are good at you psychotic freak.

    novasteve July 11, 2013 - 1:22 pm #79656 Reply

    Nobody is required to tip, dezl. Apples to apples. Why aren’t you outraged over the low wages to restaurant employees? Because you go to restaurants but don’t shop at walmart?

    John Fontain July 11, 2013 - 1:26 pm #79657 Reply

    jotorious said: “Your question is a good one. Am I willing to pay more for a product to ensure a livable wage for the laborer? Yes.”

    Thanks for the response, but to clarify I’m not asking if you would be willing I am asking if you do (already) pay more.   Do you purposefully buy the more expensive airline ticket?  Do you already pay more than you have to for a car?  Do you select a higher bid for a faucet repair or for a mortgage?

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