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Is Chiptole the pioneer? When will others follow?
  • novasteve July 29, 2013 - 3:08 pm #81752 Reply

    There’s a such thing? You learn something new every day.

    Sunshine July 29, 2013 - 3:18 pm #81753 Reply

    And most vegans throw the animal derived/tested thing out the window when it comes to life saving drugs/medications. They just try to do the best they can. They’re not perfect.

    JamesE July 29, 2013 - 3:29 pm #81758 Reply

    What about that really expensive coffee that is made from animal poop?

    novasteve July 29, 2013 - 3:39 pm #81761 Reply

    Yes, that Kopi Luwak wouldn’t be vegan.


    Would vegans wear sweaters made out of human hair?

    Sunshine July 29, 2013 - 3:46 pm #81766 Reply

    Would anyone wear a sweater made from human hair?

    Hank July 29, 2013 - 3:49 pm #81768 Reply

    I wear a merkin made out of human hair…

    Sunshine July 29, 2013 - 4:01 pm #81773 Reply

    Okay, I had to Google that….NSFW….. :-)

    fedworker July 29, 2013 - 4:21 pm #81775 Reply

    lol. that was a good one!

    Anonymous July 29, 2013 - 5:59 pm #81785 Reply

    “Beekeeping is seen to be along the lines of factory farming; cruel and inhumane. Lots of bees are crushed when the trays are removed and replaced.”

    What a crock.

    Bees in a hive are usually much better off. They are fed and protected by the beekeeper. And very few bees are crushed. Taking honey doesn’t hurt them because the beekeeper feeds them sugar water to replace it.

    Anonymous July 29, 2013 - 6:02 pm #81786 Reply

    You can wear bee hair.

    Sunshine July 29, 2013 - 7:25 pm #81789 Reply

    “Bees in a hive are usually much better off. They are fed and protected by the beekeeper. And very few bees are crushed.”

    You are correct if you are talking about small operations. But I’m talking about huge honey producers–think the honey that comes in the plastic bear or the honey used in that cereal you like. They are are not tended very carefully.  It’s like a factory farm.

    Anonymous July 29, 2013 - 9:01 pm #81790 Reply

    I don’t think there’s any such thing as “huge honey producers.” They all need flowers to make honey, so they all go send their hives out to farmer’s fields, a few hives at a time. You can’t really have a whole lot of bees in one place – there won’t be enough flowers for all of them. Unless they’re feeding them all sugar water and producing really crappy honey. But they still have to do it one hive at a time, and they only have to open the hives when it’s time to harvest the honey, and that doesn’t really kill any bees.

    I think the big honey producers just buy honey from beekeepers here and there and mix it in big vats, and add corn syrup. That’s the only difference between them and small operations. Every hive is a small operation no matter what.

    Tom July 30, 2013 - 9:14 am #81806 Reply

    HAHAHAHA @Hank you are the man

    Sunshine July 30, 2013 - 10:41 am #81822 Reply

    Just Google factory farmed bees. Here is a small example:

    The familiar white box that serves as a beehive has been around since the mid-1850s and was created so that beekeepers could move the hives from place to place. The New York Times reported that bees have been "moved from shapes that accommodated their own geometry to flat-topped tenements, sentenced to life in file cabinets." Since "swarming" (the division of the hive upon the birth of a new queen) can cause a decline in honey production, beekeepers do what they can to prevent it, including clipping the wings of a new queen, killing and replacing an older queen after just one or two years, and confining a queen who is trying to begin a swarm. Queens are artificially inseminated using drones, who are killed in the process. Commercial beekeepers also "trick" queens into laying more eggs by adding wax cells to the hive that are larger than those that worker bees would normally build.

    novasteve July 30, 2013 - 10:46 am #81823 Reply

    Do vegans repent (in a similar manner to how actors repent if they say the name of the scottish play) if a bug accidentally flies into their mouths?

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