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Navy Yard Shooting
  • Dezlboy September 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm #86979 Reply

    FWIW: I question whether the Navy Yard is a secure facility. For example, last week friends and I parked at the Navy Yard and walked to Nationals Stadium. On the way in the driver of our car showed his Federal Employee (DoD) ID and the car was waved through. One the way back to the car after the game, we walked into the Navy Yard past the guard station and the guard only asked to see one ID. That seemed very lax to me. Is this incident related to the shooting? Probably not. But, it raises the question of what is a secure base?

    And, how do you stop people from taking guns/rifles into buildings, let alone onto the base. If the shooter(s) was a regular employee who drove in everyday, he would have the proper stickers on his car for the guard to wave him in. And, I doubt the Navy Yard inspects car interiors of those with proper authority to drive onto the base.

    But, maybe this isn’t the place for this discussion. As I don’t want to be appearing as blaming the victims.

    Anonymous September 16, 2013 - 4:08 pm #86982 Reply

    It appears the shooter was an employee, with a valid ID. IDs are useless for security when it’s an inside job.

    Rick September 16, 2013 - 10:33 pm #87005 Reply

    @dezlboy Delivery drivers making stops at the yard have to stop at the welcome center at 11th/O st, where they have the option of going inside and being fingerprinted, ID’ed etc… or waiting in the parking lot and having the recipient of said delivery (whether it be food, or flowers, or any other treat) meet them there. The delivery vehicle usually isn’t inspected. By comparison, Bolling AFB is a mandatory opening of all doors+hood and trunk, registration at the welcome center with ID and usually the vehicle registration etc. Myer-Henderson is lighter with no welcome center check in. So for civilians, it’s a little easier to cause trouble at the navy yard then it is at Bolling.

    Dezlboy September 16, 2013 - 10:53 pm #87006 Reply

    @Rick: Appreciate the information. Clearly my one-time experience with WNY security was not at all indicative of their procedures.  And, as @sansabelt noted, if an employee has a valid ID, it makes it harder to ensure total safety. Not that “total’ safety is achievable.

    However, clearly, in a related issue, the first responders (DC police, Park Police, FBI SWAT, etc etc) performed most admirably.

    Rick September 16, 2013 - 11:11 pm #87007 Reply

    @dezlboy to be fair, I’ve had experiences at many bases riding in a service members car and at most, I’ve presented an ID that was not documented or scanned. I would imagine most installations will be on DEFCON3 for awhile now though.

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