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Outdoor Smoking Ban American University
  • wimmer201 August 16, 2013 - 5:07 pm #84312 Reply

    Saw it on the news….glad to see bigotry and persecution of smokers is alive and well :)

    Dezlboy August 16, 2013 - 5:09 pm #84314 Reply

    Don’t understand how the American University can use “American” in their name.

    Oh, I guess it’s like Liberty University Law School using “Liberty” in their name too.

    novasteve August 16, 2013 - 6:19 pm #84329 Reply

    Replace smokers with homosexuals and you’d be screaming about bigotry. And what does AU have to do with Virginia or Arlington? You posted this merely to bait. And you accuse others of being trolls. That’s hilarious.

    wimmer201 August 16, 2013 - 6:32 pm #84334 Reply

    Your obsession with homosexuals is really quite remarkable.  Also, I’m using your logic of taking any topic on the planet and saying “this could happen in Arlington” to make it applicable to this forum.  I’m just an amateur.  You still win the biggest troll in Arlington award.  Congrats.

    Dezlboy August 16, 2013 - 6:42 pm #84336 Reply

    @NS wrote, “…replace smokers with homosexuals…”

    A famous person  once said, “sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”  In NS’ case I’m thinking his cigarettes are not just cigarettes. After all, where’s there is smoke, there is fire.

    AKB August 16, 2013 - 7:08 pm #84337 Reply

    All for this ban. The other day I saw a little girl (not more than 7-8 years old) with two parents who were smoking cigarettes. The poor child was playing with her toys and I felt sorry for her. Why do parents not know the impact they are having on children? What should have been a proper course of action for me? I just walked away and did nothing. After all, the smokers had rights. We live in world full of complications.

    Dezlboy August 16, 2013 - 7:14 pm #84338 Reply

    AKB, I would have done the same thing you did…..walk away. The parents most likely have heard that second hand smoke is harmful. Saying something to them wouldn’t cause them to change their habits.

    Of course, this was in Arlington, right? :-)

    AKB August 16, 2013 - 7:18 pm #84339 Reply

    Yeah, next to the Clarendon metro, just outside near the bench. I lost my appetite. May be it was as my really-super-hot-date was not into vegan or vegetarian. So, it was a dreadful evening all the way through. This experience with smokers just made me sick. There is a movie that smokers should see: Thank you for smoking (2006).

    novasteve August 16, 2013 - 7:23 pm #84340 Reply

    Yet did you have concern over the automobile exhaust the child was inhaling? Do you concern yourself what others feed their kids? Were you concerned about the carcinogenic fumes drycleaned clothes give off? That the child was being expose to UV light? The list could go on and on but since it is okay the hate smokers, you singled that out . Fascinating. And OUTDOORS smoking.  Unbelievable. Should parents not be allowed to BBQ around children?

    AKB August 16, 2013 - 7:27 pm #84341 Reply

    Novasteve: I am a libertarian, with a few exceptions. One is smokers. Cannot stand them. Never. Ever. Will. I. Support. Them.

    wimmer201 August 16, 2013 - 7:32 pm #84342 Reply

    Wow.  AKB could not have summed up my feeling about smokers any better.  Well done.

    Dezlboy August 16, 2013 - 7:48 pm #84344 Reply

    Dear Smokers,

    I am fed-up with the self-serving BS that some smokers spout and the weak defenses that these people proffer. It’s time for them to shut up and quit their moaning – they don’t know the meaning of “civil liberty”.

    Not only are they being manipulated by the addiction itself, but many of the politicians who so cynically claim/have claimed to speak for the health of our nation are, themselves, part of the tobacco business. Smokers are doing their bidding.

    Smokers are prisoners of the cigarettes. In claiming that they are expressing a personal freedom they are only fooling themselves.
    They even stink up a nice walk. If I take a stroll in a built-up area, it’s bad enough that I have to put up with the mixture of pollution from lazy bastards in cars and inefficient manufacturing practices, without a cloud of the smokers’ death-puff wafting in my face.

    Lock yourself in your yellowing, smelly, dank home and smoke yourself to death at my pleasure. But don’t you impose your foul-smelling, filthy, harmful smoke onto me. I have as much right to enjoy the outdoors without YOUR disgusting habit being imposed on me.

    There is a huge amount of evidence to suggest that it is harmful. Why would any sane individual wish to gamble the health of innocent strangers around them? This is a limp defense by people who are too feeble-minded and weak to take responsibility for the harm that they place in others’ way and quit their wasteful, disgusting habit.

    Sincerely,
    Me.

    Tom August 16, 2013 - 10:22 pm #84345 Reply

    @Dezlboy, honestly, I couldn’t have said it better. @AKB, you’re on to something here as well.

    <rant>

    I’m an ex (put down the ball and chain a few months back) who was considerate enough not to blow it in others’ faces--literally and figuratively. I sort of wish that I could apologize on behalf of those who don’t consider others’ preference (re: secondhand health), but I can’t, so I won’t. What I can do is argue that a smoking ban is, simultaneously, an extension of the whole population’s liberty--to live longer--while, at the same time, a marginal limitation imposed on other liberties belonging to a specific sect of the population at hand. A utilitarian such as Jeremy Bentham would argue that the greatest amount of good for the greatest number of people is the best thing to do, but I don’t know how many of those people read these forums. Plus, Bentham has been dead for quite some time. All I’m really trying to say here is that if I still smoked, I’d do it in a manner so as to minimize others’ exposure--regardless of whether or not I knew they were nonsmokers.

    </rant>

    Goodnight, all.

    novasteve August 17, 2013 - 10:19 am #84365 Reply

    In short, it is okay to hate smokers because ou don’t approve. You are just as big of a hateful bigot as the “homophobes” you accuse of being “homophobes” for not agreeing with you on gay marriage while you ignore that gays get killed in other countries for existing, yet you equate civil unions to being just as bad as killing people.

     

    Remember to hate each car’s driver that drives by because what you are inhaling is drastically worse for you.

    Dezlboy August 17, 2013 - 10:45 am #84371 Reply

    @NS wrote, “it is okay to hate smokers because ou don't approve.”

    Thanks for your permission.

    @NS wrote, “You are just as big of a hateful bigot as the "homophobes" you accuse of being "homophobes" for not agreeing with you on gay marriage”

    How big? 6 ft, 250 pounds big?

    @NS, “you ignore that gays get killed in other countries for existing”

    I do not. Prove it.

    NS wrote,” yet you equate civil unions to being just as bad as killing people.”

    I do not. Prove it.

    Is Saturday your medicine free day?

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