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Liz Gorman, a young adult female, has opened the valve for a torrent of reports of sexual verbal and physical assaults upon women in D.C. by posting an account of being sexual assaulted in mid-afternoon in her DuPont Circle neighborhood by a male bicyclist.
Some years ago female colleagues in my professional field who were in D.C. to review research proposals, including ones concerning sexual assault, mentioned the frequency of sexual verbal assaults in downtown D.C. in the day time on major streets, e.g., Connecticut Ave. I wondered if they were exaggerating. So it was arranged that I would stool along a short distance behind two of the women as they first went down and then back up several blocks of Connecticut. They did not exaggerate. FOR ALL: How might the unacceptability of these assaults be clearly and pointedly communicated to the perpetrators?
For WOMEN: are sexual verbal assaults prevalent in ARLCo? More frequent in certain locations? How frequent are these assaults at various time, e.g., day time, early evening, night?
Some sexual physical assaults are reported to the police and are written up as such and entered into crime records by the police. But many sexual physical assaults by strangers are not reported. And date rape, while prevalent, is infrequently reported. For WOMEN especially: How might women be effectively encouraged to report more of the sexual assaults that they experience?
Check out this PC lunacy on this very topic. website about talking about sexual assaults and sexual harassment in public places in the DC area.
Then of course the insane part, their “anti racism policy”
So blinded by political correctness they'd actually make it harder to catch the perps if they are a racial minority, which of course not all are. But the fact they are doing this is insane. So possibly offending someone is worse than rape? What are these pc lunatics thinking? I wonder if these lunatics will be worried about hurting someone's feelings or offending someone while being sexually assaulted.
Insanity. Liberal sissified politically correct insanity.
novasteve said:
Check out this PC lunacy on this very topic. website about talking about sexual assaults and sexual harassment in public places in the DC area.
Then of course the insane part, their “anti racism policy”
So blinded by political correctness they'd actually make it harder to catch the perps if they are a racial minority, which of course not all are. But the fact they are doing this is insane. So possibly offending someone is worse than rape? What are these pc lunatics thinking? I wonder if these lunatics will be worried about hurting someone's feelings or offending someone while being sexually assaulted.
Insanity. Liberal sissified politically correct insanity.
That's just commenting for that website (which is asking women to talk about being victims of sexual assaults and related crimes)- they're not saying don't report the race of the perp to the police, they're just asking that it not be mentioned in that particular website (unless it's important to the story).
Silly? Perhaps, but it has nothing to do with solving or preventing crimes.
So it's okay to perpetrate stereotypes about men? But not about race or religion?
Seems to me I read about women raping underage students on a daily basis. yet this story, and everything else makes it seem like only men are rapists, and basically implying all men are potential rapists.
I have a feeling more people see that blog than see the police reports, so wouldn't this be a better service to the public by letting the public know who the suspects are so they aren't a victim of a crime? Or is offending someone worse than rape do these pc nutjobs?
I have never had a problem in Arlington or in NVA. I've always felt safe. That being said, I am careful about my activities – I don't walk/jog at odd hours of the day or night. I don't go out unaccompanied on dark streets. I don't go on the trails when they are empty. I've never had problems in my home with strangers either.
Truthfully, I feel very safe in this area.
But what is a “sexual assault”??? I think nowadays the term is used with WAY too much frequency and has watered down the real sexual assault – rape. Pinching a behind is not a sexual assault in my book. A cat call is not a verbal sexual assault either.
If someone were to approach me in a threatening way they would risk having a permanent high pitched voice or a very painful body part. This happened to me in my teens and I did something about it (not in this area). I can defend myself and I will, but I don't put myself in a situation where I may have to do it. I don't think women think this way anymore.
novasteve said:
So it's okay to perpetrate stereotypes about men? But not about race or religion?
Seems to me I read about women raping underage students on a daily basis. yet this story, and everything else makes it seem like only men are rapists, and basically implying all men are potential rapists.
I have a feeling more people see that blog than see the police reports, so wouldn't this be a better service to the public by letting the public know who the suspects are so they aren't a victim of a crime? Or is offending someone worse than rape do these pc nutjobs?
I don't think this has anything to do with that article. Men do commit a lot more rape then women- 99% of all rapes are committed by men, according to FBI statistics.
That blog post is about victims telling their stories- not about solving or preventing crimes. It's not about women telling people to watch out for “a 5'10″ hispanic male, stocky build, with a moustache, in his 30s”.
If a women is assaulted, obviously she should go to the police- discussion blogs should not be in the business of solving crimes- amateur “assistance” like that can be seriously detrimental to police efforts.
Steve is muddying the waters throwing in statutory rape, an inappropriate relationship that occurs between women teachers and male students, and men teachers and female students–and same-sex as well.
Outside of those situations, which are usually damaging in their own way, physical/sexual assault and harassment are what we're talking about.
Lauren, in the case of the woman who reported the bicyclist assaulting her, he thrust his hand into her genitals. Then he took off, laughing. It's a power thing; it's not about attraction. Meant to humiliate and shame the victim.
I call that sexual assault, but I get your point. “Rape” is a much stronger term. Depends on the state and jurisdiction what terms are used for what.
iiandyiiii said:
novasteve said:
So it's okay to perpetrate stereotypes about men? But not about race or religion?
Seems to me I read about women raping underage students on a daily basis. yet this story, and everything else makes it seem like only men are rapists, and basically implying all men are potential rapists.
I have a feeling more people see that blog than see the police reports, so wouldn't this be a better service to the public by letting the public know who the suspects are so they aren't a victim of a crime? Or is offending someone worse than rape do these pc nutjobs?
I don't think this has anything to do with that article. Men do commit a lot more rape then women- 99% of all rapes are committed by men, according to FBI statistics.
That blog post is about victims telling their stories- not about solving or preventing crimes. It's not about women telling people to watch out for “a 5'10″ hispanic male, stocky build, with a moustache, in his 30s”.
If a women is assaulted, obviously she should go to the police- discussion blogs should not be in the business of solving crimes- amateur “assistance” like that can be seriously detrimental to police efforts.
And virtually all terrorism is islamist in the nature but I would be committing “hate speech” if I blamed terrorism on Islam and muslims like men are being blamed for rape here. Why the double standard? I thought their argument is to not perpetuate stereotypes, but it's okay to stereotype men so long as a religion or racial group isn't singled out? Notice the extreme hypocrisy?
If I said virtually all of Chicago's gun violence was committed by and against blacks and hispanics, that would be crime think, but if I said virtually all of chicago's rapes were committed by men, that would be perfectly fine.
Can you admit that there's a huge double sstandard, and that it's based in political correctness? And does not political correctness equal the denial of reality?
novasteve said:
iiandyiiii said:
novasteve said:
So it's okay to perpetrate stereotypes about men? But not about race or religion?
Seems to me I read about women raping underage students on a daily basis. yet this story, and everything else makes it seem like only men are rapists, and basically implying all men are potential rapists.
I have a feeling more people see that blog than see the police reports, so wouldn't this be a better service to the public by letting the public know who the suspects are so they aren't a victim of a crime? Or is offending someone worse than rape do these pc nutjobs?
I don't think this has anything to do with that article. Men do commit a lot more rape then women- 99% of all rapes are committed by men, according to FBI statistics.
That blog post is about victims telling their stories- not about solving or preventing crimes. It's not about women telling people to watch out for “a 5'10″ hispanic male, stocky build, with a moustache, in his 30s”.
If a women is assaulted, obviously she should go to the police- discussion blogs should not be in the business of solving crimes- amateur “assistance” like that can be seriously detrimental to police efforts.
And virtually all terrorism is islamist in the nature but I would be committing “hate speech” if I blamed terrorism on Islam and muslims like men are being blamed for rape here. Why the double standard? I thought their argument is to not perpetuate stereotypes, but it's okay to stereotype men so long as a religion or racial group isn't singled out? Notice the extreme hypocrisy?
If I said virtually all of Chicago's gun violence was committed by and against blacks and hispanics, that would be crime think, but if I said virtually all of chicago's rapes were committed by men, that would be perfectly fine.
Can you admit that there's a huge double sstandard, and that it's based in political correctness? And does not political correctness equal the denial of reality?
Ahhh, I see what you've got wrong. “Men” aren't being blamed for rape- at least not by me or that article (or any other sane person). Rapists are- and most rapists are men. So you might say some men are blamed for rape- that subset of men that commits rape. It's as silly and wrong to blame “men” for rape (which implies ALL men) as it would be to blame “humans” for rape.
So if you blame “muslims” for terrorists, then you're equally wrong- blame terrorists for terrorism. Blame murderers for murder, and criminals for crime.
So I don't see a double standard- because it's ALWAYS wrong to blame a large group for the actions of a small portion of that group. Rape is not men's fault, terrorism is not muslims' fault, and gun violence is not black folks' fault. Rape is the fault of rapists, terrorism of terrorists, etc.
Saying “most rapists are men” is a far, far different thing from saying “most men are rapists”. The first statement says nothing about men as a group, or most individual men.
iiandyiiii said:
Saying “most rapists are men” is a far, far different thing from saying “most men are rapists”. The first statement says nothing about men as a group, or most individual men.
Saying “Most terrorists are muslim” is a far, far different thing from saying “most muslims are terrorists.”
Just switched two words, yet I can only imagine the crimes I would be charged with in the UK. Do you still say there's no double standard?
Why is it “hate speech” to say what I wrote, but not what you wrote?
novasteve said:
iiandyiiii said:
Saying “most rapists are men” is a far, far different thing from saying “most men are rapists”. The first statement says nothing about men as a group, or most individual men.
Saying “Most terrorists are muslim” is a far, far different thing from saying “most muslims are terrorists.”
Just switched two words, yet I can only imagine the crimes I would be charged with in the UK. Do you still say there's no double standard?
Why is it “hate speech” to say what I wrote, but not what you wrote?
So now we're discussing UK law? God, you just love to build up straw men and take them down. I don't know anything about UK hate speech laws, and I'm not interested in defending them. If the stats say “most terrorists are muslim”- and I don't know if they actually do (it probably defends on how one defines “terrorism”), then what do I care if you make a factual statement?
Feel free to actually address something that I've said, and explain why you disagree with it. But for the love of God, please, please, I'm begging you- quit making assumptions about what I (or anyone else) believe! If you don't know, just ask!
Women like being assaulted and harassed. It's just they're a darling group and PC libs want them to think they don't.
“Most terrorists are muslin.”
What's the definition of terrorism?
Where, when?
Just 4 examples of terrorism:
In Mexico: Might the contemporary threats, e.g., against reports and the media to NOT report assaults and homicides perpetrated by the drug cartels, and the actual kidnappings, tortures and homicides actually perpetrated by the drug cartel constitute terrorism? Is there even one leader of the Mexican drug that is muslin?
I recall that post WWII until the formation of the State of Israel from the western part of Palestine, the British colonial officials and others in Palestine were subjected to terrorism, e.g., a huge bomb blast at the King David Hotel, that was conducted by … an underground Jewish group. Muslins? You know the answer.
And didn't the IRA (Irish Republican Army) recently conduct a lengthy “war” of extensive and often deadly terrorism against the English? Muslins, none.
In Japan, wasn't there a group of Japanese that, among various acts of contemporary terrorism, released a deadly biological agent in the subway? Muslins?
JimPB said:
“Most terrorists are muslin.”
What’s the definition of terrorism?
Where, when?
Just 4 examples of terrorism:
In Mexico: Might the contemporary threats, e.g., against reports and the media to NOT report assaults and homicides perpetrated by the drug cartels, and the actual kidnappings, tortures and homicides actually perpetrated by the drug cartel constitute terrorism? Is there even one leader of the Mexican drug that is muslin?
I recall that post WWII until the formation of the State of Israel from the western part of Palestine, the British colonial officials and others in Palestine were subjected to terrorism, e.g., a huge bomb blast at the King David Hotel, that was conducted by … an underground Jewish group. Muslins? You know the answer.
And didn’t the IRA (Irish Republican Army) recently conduct a lengthy “war” of extensive and often deadly terrorism against the English? Muslins, none.
In Japan, wasn’t there a group of Japanese that, among various acts of contemporary terrorism, released a deadly biological agent in the subway? Muslins?
Of course that’s all the lib meadia will tell you about. It's common knowledge 90%+ of terrorists are Muslim.
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