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Should family members of Politicians have to report gifts made?
  • novasteve June 25, 2013 - 10:03 am #77570 Reply

    And they count as disclosures for the politician? Ify ou do think that Mcdonnell should have had to disclose gifts to his wife from some person, doesn’t that treat her like property? she isn’t him. If she is treated as him, isn’t that demeaning?

    Sunshine June 25, 2013 - 10:30 am #77580 Reply

    I think immediate family members should have to report gifts over a certain dollar amount. Otherwise all kinds of “gifts” could be funneled through the spouse and children and go directly back to the politician without anyone knowing about it. Presumably he benefits from the gifts she is receiving in some way given that he lives in the same household.

    novasteve June 25, 2013 - 10:33 am #77585 Reply

    So if you are married to a politician you lose your individuality and privacy rights?

    wimmer201 June 25, 2013 - 10:43 am #77592 Reply

    How about Nik Wallenda’s walk across the grand canyon?  Wow.

    Quoth the Raven June 25, 2013 - 10:45 am #77594 Reply

    “So if you are married to a politician you lose your individuality and privacy rights?”

    In many ways, yes, you do.  There are rules for politicians and family members, and if you don’t want to follow them, don’t run for office.

    Dezlboy June 25, 2013 - 10:47 am #77597 Reply

    Gifts that benefit the politician’s spouse, also benefit the politician.  And if those gifts are from businesses that profit from the politican’s positions, it’s even more important the gifts are reported.

    @NS: your statement to question ratio is 1 to 5.

    novasteve June 25, 2013 - 10:49 am #77599 Reply

    That sounds like you consider a spouse to be property. Say if they don’t get married. But live together. Should they have to report a gift to the live in partner?

    Sunshine June 25, 2013 - 10:59 am #77603 Reply

    Yes, even live in partners should have to report gifts since the politician will likely benefit from them. There is a reason politicians are called Public Figures. When you are elected to office you lose your privacy. You live in the constant eye of the public. All politicians know that they will be scrutinized and criticized on many different levels including on a personal level. They know their family members will be scrutinized as well.

    novasteve June 25, 2013 - 11:09 am #77612 Reply

    Why not stick cameras in their bedrooms since you think they are entitled to no privacy and no legal independence from their spouse? I mean the taxpayers pay for the house the gov lives in. Why can’t we have cameras?

    Dezlboy June 25, 2013 - 11:14 am #77617 Reply

    @NS wrote, “That sounds like you consider a spouse to be property. Say if they don't get married. But live together. Should they have to report a gift to the live in partner?”

    No, I don’t consider a spouse to be property. I can’t imagine how you could come  to that conclusion.

    But, in reguards to your other points: What if they didn’t live together? What if they lived within the same zip code and only ate lunch together? What if they lived in different states and only communicated via email?  Would this inter-state relationship be considered pedophilia if one person owned a puppy under the age of 8 months? How about if the pupply wasn’t housebroken? Would the purchase of Pampers be considered a political contribution? Would the puppy be considered property? What if trees grew on the moon and unicorns roamed the streets?

     

    Captain_Obvious June 25, 2013 - 11:14 am #77618 Reply

    in a weird way, that’s not the most absurd thing you’ve said on here.

    Sunshine June 25, 2013 - 11:36 am #77632 Reply

    “Why not stick cameras in their bedrooms since you think they are entitled to no privacy and no legal independence from their spouse? I mean the taxpayers pay for the house the gov lives in. Why can't we have cameras?”

    I’m sure the Governor’s Mansion has a ton of cameras. But no, not in the bedrooms or bathrooms. There has to be a boundry somewhere. Look, nothing is off limits these days. Look at all of the comments about Chris Christies weight. That has to be very hurtful to him and his family. Weight is just such a personal issue. But he’s a politician. He has to take it as part of the job. It would actually be kind of funny to have a Governor cam. We could watch him in his office to see if he was actually, you know, working, for us, the people of his state.

    novasteve June 25, 2013 - 12:00 pm #77636 Reply

    How about county board cameras? Do I have a right to know that Fisette doesn’t use bottled water at home or while at out to make sure he isn’t a hypocrite?

    Sunshine June 25, 2013 - 12:15 pm #77642 Reply

    I don’t think anyone has any privacy once they leave their home. It’s safe to assume that everyone is on surveillance cameras almost any place they go these days. I’m sure you could root through Fisette’s recycling bin on trash day to make sure there are no water bottles in there.

    Sunshine June 25, 2013 - 12:17 pm #77643 Reply

    Maybe we could gift the spouses of all politicians with cameras.

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