weather icon 86° Partly Cloudy
The Latest:

Home > General Discussion > So who won the debate?

So who won the debate?
  • Rob M October 4, 2012 - 12:03 am #57093 Reply

    Discuss…

    UA October 4, 2012 - 8:37 am #57094 Reply

    President Obama lost (surprisingly) badly.

     

    Obama's example about the Ohio hospital gave Romney (IMHO) his biggest weapon, proving his point that businesses can cut costs better than the government.   

     

    (To me) it looked like Obama did not understand and counter correctly about lowering the rate while increasing the pool.  He kept saying that it was simple math and Romney countered with the never ending circle (dog chasing tail), surprisingly good explanation.  I am not sure if the general population would be able to understand it (would be curious if someone finds a poll about it) but they were probably not watching the debate in the first place.

     

    Overall I was impressed with the debate, probably one of the best debates I have seen.  I enjoyed not having the teleprompters, both candidates seem to be a little rude to the host at times, but both got their jabs in a pretty civil manner.    

    JamesE October 4, 2012 - 9:04 am #57095 Reply

    Romney was more aggressive but never actually made a point 

    Captain_Obvious October 4, 2012 - 9:13 am #57096 Reply

    JamesE said:

    Romney was more aggressive but never actually made a point 

    neither did Obama…Its a matter of perception. 

    bobco85 October 4, 2012 - 9:19 am #57097 Reply

    I'd have to say Romney because the debate became about him. Obama held his own, but Romney had the most to prove, and was successful having gained most of the attention after the debate was over.

     

    Romney's biggest advantage was pointing out Obama's failed economic policies (including his good line about the average middle class family earning less than they did 3.5 years ago) and the deficit.

     

    Obama's biggest advantage was pointing out Romney's lack of details on many of the policies he wants to either create or undo and redo (like Obamacare, which is Romneycare, except in a different way).

    Theakston October 4, 2012 - 9:44 am #57098 Reply

    Romney clearly won – I think Obama was too shocked when he suddenly denied the tax cuts that he had based his entire campaign on. Mr Etch-a-sketch caught him off guard with that and he had no counter argument (other than pure mathematics). He also failed to get to Romney's “loopholes” which would have to include things such as the earned income tax credit and mortgage interest deduction which directly affect the middle class and would undermine a housing recovery. 

    Romeny was well prepared, Obama looked too tired from his day job.

    Captain_Obvious October 4, 2012 - 9:50 am #57099 Reply

    Real question:  Do the debates sway you either way ?  or is your mind made up already ?

    JamesE October 4, 2012 - 9:53 am #57100 Reply

    Captain_Obvious said:

    Real question:  Do the debates sway you either way ?  or is your mind made up already ?

    Most people had their minds made up long ago, I am sure this debate will give Romney a bump in the polls but won't sway anyone.  The foreign policy debate should be interesting as long as the moderator isn't as terrible as last night.

    NoVapologist October 4, 2012 - 9:58 am #57101 Reply

    I'm pretty sure I was a winner for not watching the debate.

    internet tourettes October 4, 2012 - 10:08 am #57102 Reply

    If it was a real (college) debate it would have been close but with the emphasis on style over substance Romney was louder and had better make up so he would obviously be a better president!

     

    Actually these “debates” favour the challenger in that the incumbent has to defend actual facts and the challenger gets to attack with fairy dust and fiction.

    Rick October 4, 2012 - 10:10 am #57103 Reply

    The real losers of the debate were anyone with a twitter account. Jesus. Never seen so many RT's in my life.

    novasteve October 4, 2012 - 10:13 am #57104 Reply

    Is twitter for people who didn't get enough attention from daddy? Who has the need to tell others their every thought?

    speonjosh October 4, 2012 - 10:13 am #57105 Reply

    I only caught the last fifteen minutes or so. In general, I think Romney did surprisingly well in *looking* good – comfortable, didn't stumble, confident, appeared to know what he was talking about, etc. To the extent that there are still undecided voters out there, I suspect that Romney won over quite a few last night.

    By the way, Jim Lehrer did a fine job – he's been at this for so long that he is not intimidated by either man, kept things moving, interjected when he felt someone was getting off on the wrong track, etc. And in all his years on PBS, he has always done a fine job in hiding his own political leanings – this makes him one of the few journalists left who can say that and therefore are able to play the role of a neutral moderator convincingly.

    novasteve October 4, 2012 - 10:20 am #57106 Reply

    Jim Lehrer was like Milton Waddams in Office Space.

    Captain_Obvious October 4, 2012 - 10:25 am #57107 Reply

    novasteve said:

    Is twitter for people who didn't get enough attention from daddy? Who has the need to tell others their every thought?

    desperate, attention-seeking people.

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

×

Subscribe to our mailing list