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  • MissKittenCat December 9, 2012 - 12:34 pm #60742 Reply

    Should the Columbia Pike street car be put to a vote?

    Are you in favor of the streetcar?

    if yes, will you be actually using the streetcar?

    If no, what other ways can Arlington improve public transportation?

    Is Columbia Pike the new H street?

    Is this part of some strange gentrification for south Arlington?

     

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    Quoth the Raven December 10, 2012 - 8:47 am #60752 Reply

    Are you Jimpb in disguise?

    Major Pup McPuppo Jr. December 10, 2012 - 10:10 am #60760 Reply

    yes, 1-6

    B22201 December 10, 2012 - 2:45 pm #60809 Reply

    Wasn’t it already put to a vote?   I won’t be using it, but I’m not against it.  Just think there are other issues on Columbia Pike that a Street Car won’t fix.   But, cheaper to do it now, than want it in 10 years down the road.

    Chris Slatt December 12, 2012 - 1:34 pm #61023 Reply

    Should the Columbia Pike street car be put to a vote? I’m pretty sure Arlington lacks the statutory authority to put it to a referendum.  The only way they could would be to issue general obligation bonds to pay for it.

    Are you in favor of the streetcar? Yes

    if yes, will you be actually using the streetcar? Yes

    Is Columbia Pike the new H street? No, it’s the new Columbia Pike.

    Is this part of some strange gentrification for south Arlington? Building a new school in a neighborhood also tends to raise property values; would we be having this discussion if a new school were being discussed in South Arlington? Arlington is implementing the Columbia Pike Neighborhood Plan in an effort to transform the existing Market Affordable Housing on the Pike to Committed Affordable Housing.  In doing so it will add thousands of new residents to the Pike;  if the Pike is going to handle that influx of new people we’re going to need a transit system that a high percentage of residents will use and that means a Streetcar.

    bikeme December 12, 2012 - 11:45 pm #61073 Reply

    I. Just. Don’t. Care. Anymore.

    mass transit? yes. cycling hazards? probably. quieter that the bus? hope so. faster than the bus? better be.

    regardless, its generated conversation about civic planning, which is good.

    i dont get why people are so passionate about this… will it cost you more than a few pennies in taxes? will it be fueled by exploited kittens? I don’t get the vitriol.

    and why is development/progress/’gentrification’ bad for everyone?

    YTK December 17, 2012 - 2:41 pm #61395 Reply

    Columbia Pike is turning into another Clarendon — trendy overpriced places (and a FROYO establishment!) joggers running down the sidewalks, bicycles speeding down the sidewalks, people coming out of restaurants to smoke while standing three abreast on the sidewalk, drivers speeding down the pike, making quick turns and being affronted when they encounter people trying to cross the street – I guess sidewalks are not for pedestrians anymore.

    newty25 December 17, 2012 - 4:37 pm #61408 Reply

    Columbia Pike is turning into another Clarendon -- trendy overpriced places (and a FROYO establishment!) joggers running down the sidewalks, bicycles speeding down the sidewalks, people coming out of restaurants to smoke while standing three abreast on the sidewalk, drivers speeding down the pike, making quick turns and being affronted when they encounter people trying to cross the street - I guess sidewalks are not for pedestrians anymore.

    I personally think there should be a law banning urban running on certain streets in Arlington. Of course, it would require signs and citing people wouldn’t be easy when most people don’t run with an ID on them. But, I hate urban runners… and I’m even a runner. When I have to run down a major road to get somewhere, I use the bike lane or go around that street.

    hermitcrab December 17, 2012 - 8:21 pm #61433 Reply

    I’m OK with runners on the sidewalks, because at least they’re not cyclists on the sidewalks. I mean, seriously, even that guy who rides his bike backwards up Wilson Blvd can ride in the street. Why do so many people feel the need to ride on the sidewalk?

    CrystalMikey December 18, 2012 - 7:50 am #61441 Reply

    I personally think there should be a law banning urban running on certain streets in Arlington. Of course, it would require signs and citing people wouldn't be easy when most people don't run with an ID on them. But, I hate urban runners... and I'm even a runner. When I have to run down a major road to get somewhere, I use the bike lane or go around that street.

    Running in the bike lanes probably isn’t the best idea either.  (disclaimer:  I’m also a runner).  Though I agree with some of you as well, when I see runners trying to down sidewalks on Clarendon/Wilson in the Clarendon area.  I feel like most of them are just “showing off”.

    Will Bon December 18, 2012 - 7:57 am #61415 Reply

    On a larger, deeper level...it's HIGHLY INSULTING for those who can afford to live anywhere to choose to live in a lower income neighborhood so that they can "be down with the common man" like some modern day Marie Antoinette, pretending to be a peasant shepherdess. Wake up...barring some great financial catastrophe, you will NEVER know what it's like to be poor.You can leave that neighborhood...and although it's not impossible for those who live there orginally to do so, they don't have the degree or the trust fund to fall back on when they get bored of slumming. End of story.

    Should the Columbia Pike street car be put to a vote? Yes, But  I think the board members have already put a vote to it. As far as I know the streetcar is going to become a reality. No matter how much we complain it is going to happen.

    Are you in favor of the streetcar?

    No, I don’t think a streetcar is going to solve all the problems on Columbia pike. things like improved sidewalks, lighting, trashcans. active police presence would be needed as well. inspections of local shops on the pike. We cannot turn Arlington into a Yuppie Portland.

    if yes, will you be actually using the streetcar?

    I will use Metro and ART Buses. they provide me where i need to go.  if the streetcar goes from columbia pike through crystal city then to Potomac Yard then i might. if not I won’t be using the streetcar. how are street cars the future?

    If no, what other ways can Arlington improve public transportation?

    Expand Art Buses/add routes, bikeshare. I think a streetcar is only for decoration as well as to encourage yuppies and tourist to hang out on the pike.

    Is Columbia Pike the new H street?

    LOL, not exactly but I can imagine in a few years Columbia pike will be very different then what it is today. Most likely becoming a Clarendon sort of place. I think the main problem is that yes we need to improve public transportation on columbia pike but we are ignoring what would actually be practical  of service to the people who live, work and hang out on columbia pike. turning Columbia pike into something like Clarendon isn’t going to be practical.

    Is this part of some strange gentrification for south Arlington?

    Kinda,When people gentrify a neighborhood the local atmosphere  does change a bit. Property values  and property taxes rise. Which forces many who have lived their before to move to cheaper areas(Montgomery, PG County). Local businesses  patronized by who lived there before  often lose money due to the new residents  preferring things of there culture(organic, fair-trade, vegan, sports-bars, froyo, farmers markets, Ann Taylor) . So prices rise to “Yuppie or Trend” levels as there products take over the local market or area. somethings are just not going to be used by other people that aren’t  of that culture.

    Will Bon December 18, 2012 - 7:57 am #61416 Reply

    Should the Columbia Pike street car be put to a vote? Yes, But  I think the board members have already put a vote to it. As far as I know the streetcar is going to become a reality. No matter how much we complain it is going to happen.

    Are you in favor of the streetcar?

    No, I don’t think a streetcar is going to solve all the problems on Columbia pike. things like improved sidewalks, lighting, trashcans. active police presence would be needed as well. inspections of local shops on the pike. We cannot turn Arlington into a Yuppie Portland.

    if yes, will you be actually using the streetcar?

    I will use Metro and ART Buses. they provide me where i need to go.  if the streetcar goes from columbia pike through crystal city then to Potomac Yard then i might. if not I won’t be using the streetcar. how are street cars the future?

    If no, what other ways can Arlington improve public transportation?

    Expand Art Buses/add routes, bikeshare. I think a streetcar is only for decoration as well as to encourage yuppies and tourist to hang out on the pike.

    Is Columbia Pike the new H street?

    LOL, not exactly but I can imagine in a few years Columbia pike will be very different then what it is today. Most likely becoming a Clarendon sort of place. I think the main problem is that yes we need to improve public transportation on columbia pike but we are ignoring what would actually be practical  of service to the people who live, work and hang out on columbia pike. turning Columbia pike into something like Clarendon isn’t going to be practical.

    Is this part of some strange gentrification for south Arlington?

    Kinda,When people gentrify a neighborhood the local atmosphere  does change a bit. Property values  and property taxes rise. Which forces many who have lived their before to move to cheaper areas(Montgomery, PG County). Local businesses  patronized by who lived there before  often lose money due to the new residents  preferring things of there culture(organic, fair-trade, vegan, sports-bars, froyo, farmers markets, Ann Taylor) . So prices rise to “Yuppie or Trend” levels as there products take over the local market or area. somethings are just not going to be used by other people that aren’t  of that culture.

    Will Bon December 18, 2012 - 7:57 am #61417 Reply

    Should the Columbia Pike street car be put to a vote? Yes, But  I think the board members have already put a vote to it. As far as I know the streetcar is going to become a reality. No matter how much we complain it is going to happen.

    Are you in favor of the streetcar? No, I don’t think a streetcar is going to solve all the problems on Columbia pike. things like improved sidewalks, lighting, trashcans. active police presence would be needed as well. inspections of local shops on the pike. We cannot turn Arlington into a Yuppie Portland.

    if yes, will you be actually using the streetcar?I will use Metro and ART Buses. they provide me where i need to go.  if the streetcar goes from columbia pike through crystal city then to Potomac Yard then i might. if not I won’t be using the streetcar. how are street cars the future?

    If no, what other ways can Arlington improve public transportation?Expand Art Buses/add routes, bikeshare. I think a streetcar is only for decoration as well as to encourage yuppies and tourist to hang out on the pike.

    Is Columbia Pike the new H street? LOL, not exactly but I can imagine in a few years Columbia pike will be very different then what it is today. Most likely becoming a Clarendon sort of place. I think the main problem is that yes we need to improve public transportation on columbia pike but we are ignoring what would actually be practical  of service to the people who live, work and hang out on columbia pike. turning Columbia pike into something like Clarendon isn’t going to be practical.

    Is this part of some strange gentrification for south Arlington? Kinda,When people gentrify a neighborhood the local atmosphere  does change a bit. Property values  and property taxes rise. Which forces many who have lived their before to move to cheaper areas(Montgomery, PG County). Local businesses  patronized by who lived there before  often lose money due to the new residents  preferring things of there culture(organic, fair-trade, vegan, sports-bars, froyo, farmers markets, Ann Taylor) . So prices rise to “Yuppie or Trend” levels as there products take over the local market or area. somethings are just not going to be used by other people that aren’t  of that culture.

    Will Bon December 18, 2012 - 7:57 am #61418 Reply

    Should the Columbia Pike street car be put to a vote? Yes, But  I think the board members have already put a vote to it. As far as I know the streetcar is going to become a reality. No matter how much we complain it is going to happen.

    Are you in favor of the streetcar? No, I don’t think a streetcar is going to solve all the problems on Columbia pike. things like improved sidewalks, lighting, trashcans. active police presence would be needed as well. inspections of local shops on the pike. We cannot turn Arlington into a Yuppie Portland.

    if yes, will you be actually using the streetcar?I will use Metro and ART Buses. they provide me where i need to go.  if the streetcar goes from columbia pike through crystal city then to Potomac Yard then i might. if not I won’t be using the streetcar. how are street cars the future?

    If no, what other ways can Arlington improve public transportation?Expand Art Buses/add routes, bikeshare. I think a streetcar is only for decoration as well as to encourage yuppies and tourist to hang out on the pike.

    Is Columbia Pike the new H street? LOL, not exactly but I can imagine in a few years Columbia pike will be very different then what it is today. Most likely becoming a Clarendon sort of place. I think the main problem is that yes we need to improve public transportation on columbia pike but we are ignoring what would actually be practical  of service to the people who live, work and hang out on columbia pike. turning Columbia pike into something like Clarendon isn’t going to be practical.  affordable housing doesn’t really mean poor people, it should mean practical. Penrose square is a new apartment building on columbia pike and rent is from 1200-3500 a month, is that really affordable? and if so for who?

    Is this part of some strange gentrification for south Arlington? Kinda,When people gentrify a neighborhood the local atmosphere  does change a bit. Property values  and property taxes rise. Which forces many who have lived their before to move to cheaper areas(Montgomery, PG County). Local businesses  patronized by who lived there before  often lose money due to the new residents  preferring things of there culture(organic, fair-trade, vegan, sports-bars, froyo, farmers markets, Ann Taylor) . So prices rise to “Yuppie or Trend” levels as there products take over the local market or area. somethings are just not going to be used by other people that aren’t  of that culture.

    Quoth the Raven December 18, 2012 - 8:48 am #61523 Reply

    Maybe I missed it, but who lives in a “lower income neighborhood” to be “down with the common man”??  Where did that come from?

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