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Two US airmen killed in Vietnam war to be buried in Arlington Cemetary
  • novasteve September 23, 2013 - 11:48 am #87842 Reply



    When I first read this I thought what on earth was the USAF using a WW2 era bomber that late into the Vietnam war for then it quickly hit me that the B-52s we still use are much much older than this A-26 was in 1969.

    CrystalMikey September 23, 2013 - 1:35 pm #87856 Reply

    Exactly, it’s scary how old most our Air Force’s fleet really is.  Also, look into the situation with the refueling tankers.

    novasteve September 23, 2013 - 2:03 pm #87868 Reply

    Old doesn’t necessarily mean bad… We still consider the F-18 to be state of the art, but the thing first flew 35 years ago… That used to be ancient in aviation terms, but that doesn’t really seem to be the way anymore. Iie in the late 1930s and early 1940s just a year was a huge huge thing. Ie a plane from 1935 was probably obsolete drastically compared to a 1936 airplane.. or a couple years.. Night and day from a mid 30s fighter and a fighter even from 1941, whereas now an F-18 from 1982 is just as effective probably minus the glass cockpit and avionics changes…… So planes now will be in service for longer. Not sure if it makes up for how much more expensive they are, but we have fewer planes, and they last longer… The B-52 will be almost 100 years old when they finally retire them.

    Tom September 23, 2013 - 2:20 pm #87872 Reply

    Working in support of defense and seeing some of the specifics that go into the recap/reset procedures is fairly refreshing. I like the fact that new equipment is being designed with modularity in mind and that we can adapt new technology to keep building upon the older equipment in which we’ve already invested so much capital. They’re doing pretty big things with the Apache AH-64 family of aircraft, too, with those Block modifications.

    Now if only we could find a way to fix things like this (http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/new-34m-military-base-to-be-demolished-sigar-says-1.229757) but that might require a separate thread haha.

    novasteve September 23, 2013 - 2:28 pm #87874 Reply

    Imagine the money that could be saved if nations just agreed, by treaty. to just use biplanes and not use radar. It would save the expense of stealth technology. Spend $10,000 on a airplane vs. $50,000,000 on an airplane… Too bad this wouldn’t work becaucse someone would cheat, like germany did with the Washington Naval treaty.

    Tom September 23, 2013 - 2:53 pm #87878 Reply

    It’s a pretty big “if,” but I gotta side with you on this one, Steve. While I do enjoy technology, the Luddite in me wonders where all this stuff is gonna take us--the naïve side of me dreams of a day where we can have mutual assurance without mutually assured destruction. I’m not holding my breath on that one, though.

    novasteve September 23, 2013 - 3:08 pm #87882 Reply

    If you like that, you should watch The Enemy Below, where Curd Juergen’s character laments the only days of submarine warfare where they would compute the torpedo trajectories in their heads…

    Tom September 24, 2013 - 8:43 am #87912 Reply

    I’ll check it out!

    Tom September 24, 2013 - 8:46 am #87913 Reply

    I actually love stuff like that, old-school war themed movies

    novasteve September 24, 2013 - 9:51 am #87933 Reply

    It’s on either Netflix or Amazon prime. I’m not sure which one, but it’s definitely on one of the two. I’ve seen it a million times. Great movie.

    Tom September 24, 2013 - 3:44 pm #88105 Reply

    I must investigate, thank you for the recommendation. My roommate just picked up a new TV that came with a year’s subscription to Netflix and I’m awed at how much they have out there.

    halj September 24, 2013 - 3:51 pm #88108 Reply

    I'm awed at how much they have out there

    You haven’t inspected the quality of that bulk yet have you?

    novasteve September 24, 2013 - 3:58 pm #88113 Reply

    There’s tons of crap on Netflix, but there is also good stuff.

    Tom September 24, 2013 - 5:01 pm #88139 Reply

    Hahaha nope, I’ve only scratched the surface. For the record, awe doesn’t always have to be 100 percent positive--by my recollection, it’s a mix of admiration and dread.

    novasteve September 24, 2013 - 5:31 pm #88146 Reply

    If you like star trek, you’ll like netflix.

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