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  • Rob M July 19, 2012 - 12:03 am #52491 Reply

    I'm thinking about redesigning my website so it works well with SEO (search engine optimization) and is crawled well. I also want the design to look nice. I'm not trying to spend a ton of money (Under $3,000) Has anybody had a good experience with a company that does web design but doesn't cost an arm and a leg? 

    porkchop_milkshake July 19, 2012 - 12:32 am #52492 Reply

    I don’t have any specific recommendations, but I’d urge caution when dealing with anyone who uses the term “SEO.” Most people who use that term with a straight face are full of it. Not all, but most. Most of the time, the best “SEO” you can do is optimizing your site for usability, especially by people who need to use alternative technologies like screen readers to access your site. It just happens that sites which are easily read with screen readers are also easily crawled by search engines. Your best bet, IMO, is to look at sites in your industry with good search rankings, find out who designed them, then approach those designers. It’s good that you know your target price, but that’s not a helpful guideline all by itself without knowing what you want to do with your site. I’d expect $3k to buy 3-4 days of a decent designer’s time. That could be plenty or nowhere near enough depending on what you’re looking for from your site.

    Swag July 19, 2012 - 7:36 am #52493 Reply

    Yeah, don’t get sucked in by someone who promises high SERPs or the best SEO. Most SEO for small businesses comes from being successful, not loading up websites with keywords.

     

    Read this. Most of the meaningful SEO you can do yourself. Anyone offering professional SEO will attempt to game the spider algorithms and requires continued work and upkeep.

     

    Just have a nice, clean and useful page; keep it up-to-date; and focus on the customers. The happier they are, the more likely they are to recommend and cross-link your page, which will help your rankings.

     

    As far as website design goes, you're isn't bad. It's not cutting edge, but it's nice and modern. For 3k you'd probably get a similar, template-based layout. The only design changes I'd recommend are replacing the sketch-style “Share” with a simpler, sans serif typeface that better matches the rest of your site (and shrinking them to a more standard size); finding a slightly cleaner title typeface. Yours lacks anti-aliasing and is inexplicably rough.

     

    A good, serious freelance web designer is going to charge you at least $60/hr, plus expenses (stock images, web font licencing, server costs, etc)–an agency, even a small one, will likely be closer to $100/hr, though that can vary wildly. Stay away from anyone that charges a flat fee for the entire site and be cautious of people who charge by the page–they tend to be completely template-based and overcharge.

     

    As far as recommendations, I'd go with Ashley Bush, but only because I went to college with her and know both her and her husband are killer artists/designers. Not sure what her rates are.

    JamesE July 19, 2012 - 8:16 am #52494 Reply

    Make sure it is on the “cloud” and has lots of synergy.  I recommend cornflower blue as a font color.  My real suggestion is avoid someone that uses flash at all costs.

    redstang423 July 19, 2012 - 9:50 am #52495 Reply

    Another local (Rosslyn based) option for GREAT design work is Think Tank Creative – website address: http://www.creativebythinktank.com. As with Swag, no idea on the rates.

    Also mimicking Swag, having just started a website of my own, I learned quickly by doing research that SEO “companies” are pretty BS. A lot of them just spam message boards (as you've seen on here) with random, unrelated or semi-related links.

    Only other thing I have to add is be careful with the sketch version of the social media links. Some companies have specific rules on what logos you're allowed to use for brand continuity. I was just researching it yesterday, and couldn't find any specifics for Facebook, but Twitter has very specific rules. Basically, if you don't use one of the logos Twitter provides (and the “T” is no longer one), you need explicit permission.

    R. Griffon July 19, 2012 - 11:12 pm #52496 Reply

    My advice?  Save your money and just buy a template.  I’ve used CoolHomepages.com before and have been pretty happy with the quality of the stuff I got.  If you do use that site, make sure you get a “full site/HTML” type of template; not PSD (which is just the graphical mockup – you’d have to carve it up and do the HTML and CSS yourself), flash, or anything else you don’t recognize.

     

    If you pick a template that you like, then you can pay someone A LOT less hours to tweak it to your liking, or even just update the content if you’re not comfortable doing it yourself.

     

    And as for the SEO, save your money as others said.  You can read up a bit online and maybe make some tweaks yourself, but I think your money would be honestly better spent with Google ads, and/or advertising on popular local sites like this one.

     

    Good luck.

    yards555 July 20, 2012 - 10:09 am #52497 Reply

    I took a look at some of your code using “inspect element” in chrome…you need to be careful because what most people you hire will do is just add a few meta-tags and keywords to the pages. This takes just seconds for any experienced coder. While this does help with SEO, it's not going to bring you millions in business.

    I used to work for a company that did small business websites and promised SEO boosts…always felt bad about it because while we were delivering what we promised, people had lofty expectations of what the changes could actually do. 

    You also have to ask yourself why your company needs to do well in search engines, and what that really means. Are people searching for “professional auto detailing” or is the majority of the population simply going to search “DC Car Wash”?  What is the digital audience, what are you paying to try to attain through Google search? You may be better off making sure you do very well on “word of mouth” social networks…such as Yelp, Angies List, Google Reviews, etc. That is free and may have more bang for your buck.

    Also, do you have two websites? http://www.autodetailingarlington.net/ and http://capitolshine.com/.

    Rob M July 20, 2012 - 10:37 am #52498 Reply

    yards555 said:

    I took a look at some of your code using “inspect element” in chrome…you need to be careful because what most people you hire will do is just add a few meta-tags and keywords to the pages. This takes just seconds for any experienced coder. While this does help with SEO, it's not going to bring you millions in business.

    I used to work for a company that did small business websites and promised SEO boosts…always felt bad about it because while we were delivering what we promised, people had lofty expectations of what the changes could actually do. 

    You also have to ask yourself why your company needs to do well in search engines, and what that really means. Are people searching for “professional auto detailing” or is the majority of the population simply going to search “DC Car Wash”?  What is the digital audience, what are you paying to try to attain through Google search? You may be better off making sure you do very well on “word of mouth” social networks…such as Yelp, Angies List, Google Reviews, etc. That is free and may have more bang for your buck.

    Also, do you have two websites? http://www.autodetailingarlington.net/ and http://capitolshine.com/.

    @yards555 Yes! I do have two sites. Why? Because I signed up for a company called Local Splash to appear in more local google search results. That is how I found out the website I have now wasn't optimized to interact well with SEO and search engine crawls. In order for me to appear higher in search results (because they only get paid if I hit a certain ranking on the first page) they had to create there own website/landing page for me. They never even asked me or told me they were going to do that. Now, to be fair, I have been called by people who have found me online more frequently due to the Local Splash website, but I hate the look of the website. I just want a site that interacts well with SEO (I don't have that now) and a SEO company that doesn't create website pages (and youtube videos) without consulting me on my branding. It's been a very frustrating process but mainly because I wasn't knowledgable about the subject and I'm not a website programmer or developer. I have been educating myself and marketing assistant through websites like SEOmoz and Hubspot but this SEO and web development subject is so foreign to me. 

    Rob M July 20, 2012 - 10:40 am #52499 Reply

    Thanks everyone for your suggestions, opinions and advice.  This has been helpful. If anyone has more to add, please do so. I need all the insight and help I can get with this complex subject (or at least it seems to be when I don't have a ton of money to throw at it to see what will work) I will take a look at all the websites and people that all of you have made suggestions about. 

    kittenmittens July 20, 2012 - 5:38 pm #52500 Reply

    Hi Rob,

    My company actually does web design/strategies, so let me know if you want to talk to the guy who runs the division. He can give you an analysis of what areas can be improved with your current site (free), walk you through different options and why they're important, and is a really down-to-earth guy who is easy to work with. He can give you references if you would like, too. Just email me if you want to talk to him, I'm happy to connect you. -Sarah

    swilliams@onevoiceinc.com

    Erin July 23, 2012 - 3:12 pm #52501 Reply

    http://imageia.com/

     

    I'm a huge fan of Dan's.  His website includes links to sites he's done–it's worth checking out.

    yards555 July 24, 2012 - 3:29 pm #52502 Reply

    Rob M said:

    @yards555 Yes! I do have two sites. Why? Because I signed up for a company called Local Splash to appear in more local google search results. That is how I found out the website I have now wasn't optimized to interact well with SEO and search engine crawls. In order for me to appear higher in search results (because they only get paid if I hit a certain ranking on the first page) they had to create there own website/landing page for me. 

     

    They probably did this in order to add you as part of their Local Splash network/platform. This is the easiest way to improve “Page Rank” but it's not exactly the most honest service for you. Cheap and Easy for them, not a quality product for you. 

    PBScott July 25, 2012 - 11:47 am #52503 Reply

    I am a website developer and marketer. I had a look at your website which seems to be wordpress based. You do not need another website, all you need to do is optimize the one you have. It is quite simple to do the book  “SEO for dummies” should tell you everything you need to know.

     

    However you will not get a huge amount of traffic with such a small website, you would be better of with a blog and a writer, as the larger the website, the more the visitors. However, if I were in your shoes I would go with a proper, well managed AdWords campaign. Auto detailing in Arlington should not be that expensive to get on adwords, probably just pennies a visitor. I do these types of things for many websites including the one in my signature link, I could do it for you for not too much money…however, if you are willing to learn to do it yourself then other than costing you a hundred hours or so of your time, you will never have to hire someone again. There is an adwords for dummies book i would suggest you get yourself into.

     

    If you wanted to hire me for a month to do it, it would cost you about $600 to get you all set up. I would have your initial campaign ready for you in a week then tweak and monitor for you for a month then you would be on your own. From that point on you should be able to manage it yourself if you are willing to learn the Google interface. Actual money spent on advertising month by month would be up to you but you should see a very decent Return on Investment. By the time you spent your $3000 it would probably be years down the road and you would probably be thinking about expanding. I would think 50 000 targeted visitors in Arlington looking for detailing could be bought with $2400.

    Again though the best way is just to learn this yourself.

     

    If you want to contact me follow the link and e-mail me from the about us page, as I do not frequent here, even if you don't want to hire me take my advice on this and you will do well.

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