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Arrests Are a Relief For Friends of Carl Diener

by ARLnow.com June 14, 2011 at 12:54 pm 4,354 19 Comments

(Updated at 4:55 p.m.) Carl Diener was a fitness nut — a big, strong man who, having retired from the federal government, decided to apply his love of exercise by working part-time at two local fitness facilities.

When employees at one of those facilities — the YMCA Arlington Tennis & Squash Center at 3400 N. 13th Street — first heard yesterday that two men had finally been arrested for Carl’s 2009 murder, at least one woman burst into tears.

“We’ve all been sort of waiting around and hoping [police] find who did it,” said Audrey Giberman, who works at the Tennis Center and who formed a close bond with Carl through the years. “He’s always been on our mind. It was a horrible, horrible tragedy.”

Giberman recounted vivid memories of the morning when Carl, a Lyon Village resident, did not show up to work as usual.

“The morning he didn’t show up, Sport and Health (Diener’s other fitness center employer) called me and said… ‘Carl’s not here.’ My front desk started calling all the hospitals. A Sport and Health member actually went to Carl’s apartment,” Giberman remembered. “When it was officially announced by police… it was very hard. Actually some of the staff went for counseling, it was such a shock.”

Now, Giberman and others are hoping that the arrests will help shed light on those lingering, unanswered questions surrounding the murder.

“You hear all these things, and you just want to know why,” she said. “You just want closure.”

Police have identified the two suspects arrested for Carl’s murder as Roger K. Clark III (top), 20, of Severn, Maryland, and Javon Martin (bottom), 24, of Washington D.C. Both men are now being held in the Arlington County Detention Center. So far, authorities have not revealed a motive in the case.

  • SouthArlJD

    I hope they have it right and these are the right guys and there’s enough to put them away for this horrible crime. Carl Diener never hurt anyone and was just living his life. He didn’t deserve to have his life taken away and if these two guys did it then they should pay.

    • 2-1

      Horrible situation but I beleive in my heart that my manz my brother should be let go he has nothing to do with it along with my other manz….FREE MY “NINJA” ASAP!!!! True 3rd Street Snipa Bruh

  • MC 703

    Meet’s VA requirements for first degree murder.

    • TGEoA

      +2

      One for each

  • Joe

    Before we hail the police, let’s remember that we don’t know yet if they got this right. We’ll find out when as this winds its way through the legal process. If these guys are convicted in a fair trial, rather than a show trial, then all the kudos to ACPD are warranted.

  • hoyacougar

    And, if they are convicted, how will you know, Joe, that it was a fair trial?

    • Joe

      You won’t know for sure. You’ll have to take a look at the trial record, what evidence was included/excluded, and make a best guess as to whether the trial was fair. Just like a jury makes their best guess as to whether a defendant is guilty–regardless of the “beyond a reasonable doubt” language.

      Given the hosannas offered here to the police without even going through trial, I’d be concerned if I were a defense attorney with whether my client gets a fair shake in Arlington. Said attorney might want to seek a change of venue given the community’s predisposition to believe the ACPD caught the true perpetrators. If a change of venue were to be denied, that would be something one could assess as to the trial’s fairness.

      Even so, people can certainly disagree as to the “fairness” of a trial’s outcome. See County of Los Angeles v. Simpson, Orenthal James.

      • chris

        So innocent even if proven guilty?

        • Joe

          Or, as is more often the case, guilty even if likely innocent.

          • chris

            example please? or are we just sticking to rhetoric…, I am not an expert but I am not aware of any blatant miscarriage of justice in the Arlington police/courts.

          • doodly

            More often the case? More than half of convicted murderers didn’t do it?

  • G Clifford Prout

    The police don’t arrest innocent people do they?

    • wer

      or violate people’s rights to get dubious arrests and then just lie in court to cover their tracks.

  • Arl bug

    Have no complaints about arrests made…wish there were a few more but evidence and laws make that tough on police.

  • Tom Lang

    Mistake Number 1. Murder.
    Mistake Number 2. In Virginia.
    The Saving Grace: Arlington.

  • Quickly

    Fry ’em both.

  • ExArlRes

    Joe…you are exactly why I moved out of Arlington. ANOTHER passive aggressive “do gooder” who thinks they know what they are talking about (oh, I’m sure you’re an “expert” in many things). The VAST majority of cases in our judicial system are fair trials and the VAST majority of convicted criminals ARE criminals. The Arlington Police aren’t perfect (unlike you, I’m sure) but these 2 punks…criminals…parasites, unfortunately, will be supported by the good people of Virginia (meals and a free place to live) for YEARS until either they die violently in prison or until the State finally puts them out of our misery….either way, we all are paying for the decision that these a$*&oles made when they killed a good man who actually gave back to the community. When Arlington finally becomes a vacation spot like SE DC, then maybe (I doubt it though) you’ll wake up to the fact that you are just as much of the problem as the criminals. Pathetic!

    • jotorious

      Wow. It seems pretty reasonable to me to suggest that these guys are innocent until proven guilty.

      You do believe in “innocent until proven guilty” don’t you?

    • sue

      well said!

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