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Murray Skips Debate, Slams Moran on Chinese TV

by ARLnow.com October 29, 2010 at 1:55 pm 2,741 53 Comments

Republican Patrick Murray skipped the last scheduled candidate debate in Arlington last night, leaving Democratic incumbent Rep. Jim Moran and Independent Green candidate Ron Fisher to have more of a “discussion” in front of nearly 100 residents.

But earlier this week Murray found the time for a 12-minute interview with New Tang Dynasty Television, which is affiliated with Falun Gong, the Chinese religious movement.

During the interview, Murray blasted Moran’s outspoken support of earmarks, calling the ten-term congressman “irresponsible” and “an anachronism from the past.”

“The earmarks benefit [Moran] more than anyone else,” Murray said. “The way he works earmarks, it’s called ‘pay to play.’ The defense industries and the IT industries, they feel forced to participate in it. They give him campaign donations in return.”

In response to an inquiry from ARLnow.com, the Moran campaign broke its usual silence and fired back.

“Patrick Murray has no clue about the needs of the 8th District because he only moved here 18 months ago,” the campaign said. “If he had more knowledge of Northern Virginia, he’d be aware of the importance of earmarks for building Dulles Rail, the Woodrow Wilson Bridge, Springfield Mixing Bowl and countless other projects that create jobs and benefit our region’s quality of life.”

“Mr. Murray’s attacks on the Federal Government, such as calling for the elimination of the Department of Education, are way out of touch and will fall on deaf ears,” the campaign added. “Northern Virginians know how integral the Federal Government is to our economy, which includes thousands of contracting jobs, consulting positions and related service industry jobs.”

In other parts of the surprisingly topical NTD TV interview — it may have been the most issue-oriented interview of the entire campaign — Murray tried to strike a more moderate tone.

He called for a “pragmatic approach” to immigration and health care, although he said he would vote to repeal President Obama’s health care reform bill. Murray, who pledged to help balance the budget, also criticized the amount of money being spent on the economic stimulus.

“That’s not how you create jobs, by spending government money and taxing people more,” Murray said.

Update at 2:10 p.m. — While Murray did not attend the debate, he did pick pick up a high-profile endorsement last night. Rising GOP star Sen. Scott Brown, who won Sen. Ted Kennedy’s old seat in a headline-making political upset, said he supports Murray’s campaign. “It’s an honor to endorse an Iraq War veteran,” Brown said in a statement.

  • Eric H.

    There was a debate. Murray didn’t go. Here’s an article about what happened in Murray’s interview with some TV station. I don’t get it.

  • BoredHouseWife

    Murray is too scared or to “important” to debate for the citizens that may vote for him, but no issue at all for some quack religious group in China.

  • How Long

    I would rather elect Murray, who gives his time to the Chinese, than Moran, who gives them his country.

    • el fat kid

      that’s really deep. i mean, wow. you just opened my eyes to the world.

      • How Long

        There is much to learn, grasshopper.

  • Captain Obvious

    He not only skipped the debate, but he did so without so much as a call to the organizers. What a classless jerk.

  • Jane

    18 months??? Murray lived in Arlington for eight years at one point. He left for more miltary service. Jim — Moving is just one more burden that is part of military public service.

    Murray will win on Tuesday. I can tell because I have spent several weekends knocking on doors for the Murray campaign. The response has been more than even hoped for — very positive for Murray and very negative for Moran.

    I can see November 2012 from my house.

    • Janine

      Which civic organizations did he join during his previous tenure here?

      • Jane

        Janine: I haven’t asked him. Nor will I because 24 years of service — much of it in combat areas overseas — is more than suffcient evidence of his dedication to serving his country. Moran has used his time in Congress feeding off of our money, raising his own salary (he was one of only eight who did this recently; astonding), and cutting lucrative deals with recently convicted “friends”. If Murray gets in office and does the same thing, I will work hard to kick him out too! We need to raise our standards and expect integrity and real public service out of our elected officials. Does the thuggish, marxist Jim Moran truly represent you?? Remember what Jim said about us having simplistic notion that we get to keep what you earn. Moran has to go.

        • Janine

          Timothy McVeigh was also a veteran. While I respect military service, I do not think it gives one a pass into Congress absent other proven credentials. Many military personnel in the area choose to share their time with organizations that benefit the community.

          • Jim

            wow – that’s disrespectful and inappropriate.

          • janine

            How so? Jane pointed out that she would not ask him about previous civic activities given his military career. Does a military career exempt one from further examination in a political setting?

          • Jim

            @Jane – you are using an extreme case to tarnish a whole group of people. i suspect you thought Juan Williams went overboard when he said he got nervous when he sees Muslims on airplanes. but you don’t see a problem bringing up Timothy McVeigh in the context a veteran running for Congress?

          • Jim

            Sorry – that’s for @janine

          • janine

            I regret that your interpretation of my comments would lead you to such a biased conclusion. I suggest you reread and consider the content with an open mind. I have nothing but respect for military service.

          • Jim

            sorry darling… words show the content of your heart. you don’t respect military service.

          • BoredHouseWife

            I agree. I have met some vets that have serious issues(and rightfully so considering what they have been through). Being a vet should not guarantee automatic political clout. Anyone who outright dismisses my statement as being disrespectful to the military service, hasn’t been around too many vets.

          • Janine

            @bored housewife I was not suggesting that his veteran status makes him suspect. I was merely opining that his veteran status should not shield him from accountability in the civic arena.

          • Westover

            @Janie your true colors really show.

        • el fat kid

          raising his own salary… he also raised Murray’s.

          btw… what is marxist about Moran?

          I hear these terms thrown around all the time by idiots in the tea party who have no basic understanding of our economic system much less economics as a whole.

          • Jane

            Moran thinks we don’t have a right to keep what we earn and the government has the right to our redistribute wealth. Thinking the government owns our money, can take it at will, and give it to whomever they want — that’s Marxism straight up. Marxism ALWAYS leads to a privileged elite oligarchy and a poor proletariat underclass with no individual rights (do you think the Elites will let you in their privileged class?). Here’s Comrade Jim Moran in his own arrogant words:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyS1WJNisM

          • el fat kid

            so say someone were to set the tax rate 2% higher – you’d condemn as marxist/socialist/etc?

          • el fat kid

            i’m just curious because federal taxes as a % of GDP were actually 2% higher under Reagan & Stan Parrish than they are under Obama & Moran.

            basically you’re saying Reagan is a marxist. interesting.

          • Jane

            We are talking about Marx’s theory here. If someone thinks the government owns all and we get our rights from government, they agree with Marx. The Constitution said the federal government has limited powers — it was only tasked to do certain things. The Progressive/Marxists (shall I add you to that category?) are trying to get us to forget that we own the government, not the other way around.

          • el fat kid

            first you twits grab the bible and condemn everyone who doesn’t interpret it the way you do. next you grab the constitution and repeat the process.

            you’re claiming to see Forms when you’re still guessing shadows.

          • Jane

            Relying on the typical progressive playbook, eh? Personal attacks to intimidate. If you want to live in a Marxist state, there are many to choose from. Although they are all melting down at the moment…. I encourage you to leave post-haste because you are not going to be a happy person next year.

    • el fat kid

      hah. you just wasted a bunch of weekends! sorry, but not really.

      • Jane

        Walking neighborhoods might slim you down, el fat kid

        • el fat kid

          talking to a bunch of repubs will give you a jaded perspective, jane.

          depends on a candidate’s field plan but volunteer canvassers are almost always surprised at the results of an election. despite being in the field talking to people, you’re going after targeted gotv households, not a random sample of likely voters.

    • a’town

      ahahahaha. OK Jane.

      Tell you what, if it wasnt for all the communication avenues we have today, this polarized country would be heading towards civil war.

  • Tonia

    How rude. He must think he can wrap up the Chinese vote. Or he is establishing contacts for future shipments of American jobs to China.

  • Mark Kinzler

    Patrick Murray never accepted the invite for the debate last night. Instead he was on FOX Business with Dave Asman at 7pm last night.

    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGp1LBMRUI

    • Suburban Not Urban

      I was at the event and the Civic Association folks there said he did. What are your credentials to say that they were not being truthful?

  • Skeptical

    I’m curious about whether candidate Murray can mention any “anachronisms from the future.”

    I agree that it’s important to have veterans in Congress, from across the political spectrum, just because Congress has the power to declare war, or used to have when we did things the old fashioned way. Possibly that’s another “anachronism from the past,” who knows?

    But the candidate first has to be in touch with the entire population he/she proposes to serve, and a veteran, woman, disabled person, health care worker, union organizer or issues activist second (just to name a list of desirable categories among contenders for public office). And missing large debates makes you wonder about the possibility of missing, say, roll calls.

    Woody Allen: “80% of life is showing up.”

  • Mark Kinzler

    FOX Business on Moran: Why Tuesday Will Be a Blowout

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2010/10/29/tuesday-blowout/

    • Terri

      Media Matters on Fox’s reporting of Mr. Moran’s comments.
      http://mediamatters.org/print/blog/201010280008

    • el fat kid

      David Asman is one of the worst reporters out there.. discussing why tuesday will be a blowout and then discussing a race the republicans won’t win kind of sums up his approach to ‘journalism.’

      • Jim

        you really seem to hate reporters that disagree with your political viewpoint. interesting.

        • el fat kid

          see, Asman isn’t a reporter… he’s an opinion writer – which is the problem w/ faux news as a whole… it’s opinion not news.

          I actually like ben smith a lot, but he occasionally writes about some irrelevant stuff and i get it… even the most minor stories highlighting potential breaking of election rules by dems have a good chance of the drudge link / page view bonanza.

  • Rob G

    Media Matters “reporting”? Trying opining, in the furthest stretch of the word. The video of Moran came from Lowkell of Blue Virginia and was not taken out of context. Otherwise, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox local, national and business never would have covered it. They all asked to see the entire Moran tape before airing the story and concluded that it wasn’t taken out of context. That’s precisely why Moran first said he “misspoke” before realizing how bad things got and then claimed his words were twisted.

    A big thank you to Arlington Dems for providing the footage…

    • Terri

      Did Media Matters provide an inaccurate transcription? Will you be making the unedited video available to the voters?

    • Terri

      I do not see any errors in transcription.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc9iWVknwpY&feature=related

    • Jane

      So what does Moran mean when he said “And of course for 24 years he’s (Murray) taken a government check, because, frankly, the military still is part of the federal government,….” He is trying (unsuccessfully) to disparage Murray, but hasn’t Moran “taken a government check” for 20 years??

      Has Media Matter “reported” on Moran’s false claim in his campaign literature that the Military Officers Association of America is endorsing him?.
      http://retirejimmoran.com/2010/10/25/morans-military-woes-continue/

      • Terri

        Try listening to the video in its entirety and I am sure you can figure that out all by yourself.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc9iWVknwpY&feature=related

        No one mentioned anything about Money Matters “reporting” except you and RobG

        • Jane

          Terri — I have listened to the full clip and the response Moran gave to a local news reproter. I figured out Jim Moran long ago. So what do you think of Jim’s lies about that group’s endorsement?

  • Rob G

    Jim, reporters aren’t supposed to have a political viewpoint for me to understand. Reporting and opining are two very different things.

    Jane, the entire video is and has been available under Lowkell’s account on YouTube and in an article about “Stealth Candidates” on Blue Virginia’s site. Look it up, unless the Dems shamefully pulled them down.

    • Jim

      Sorry Rob G – all reporters have political viewpoints… it a question of how well they hide them.

  • Rob G

    Jim: That’s what I just said.

  • Rob G

    Yeah fatty, because history confirms that it never stops at “just” X%

    • el fat kid

      what?

  • jon anderson

    I do want to point out, out of fairness, that moran said he would skip the mt. Vernon lee chamber debate but instead he decided to show up 90 minutes late and expect equal time.

  • Westover

    It is a shame that once again there is no reasonable candidate for the 8th District. We have a carpet bagger that has been in office for almost twenty years, having zero military service, and a career military man who has limited knowledge of the area. Maybe I will throw my hat in the ring in two years just so we can have someone from the area on the ballot!

  • Jim S

    Just to correct the record, then Lt Col Murray was a tenant of mine 5 years ago in Old Town. The assertion that he just moved here are yet another slam on his military service, which required that he be reassigned. Shame on Jim Moran for his deceptive statements about Colonel Murray.

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