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Board Again Defers Permit for Pines of Italy

by Katie Pyzyk September 18, 2012 at 10:45 am 4,228 8 Comments

The months-long effort by Pines of Italy (3111 Columbia Pike) to obtain a live entertainment permit continues, as the County Board chose once again to defer the issue.

The Board had previously deferred the issue at its April meeting in an effort to give the business owners more time to prove themselves worthy of being granted a permit. Similar to past meetings, residents from the surrounding area showed up on Saturday to voice concerns about issuing the permit. They cited the property’s history of consistent problems with patrons being violent and noisy. Some neighbors noted how peaceful the neighborhood has been for approximately six months because there has been no live entertainment on the site.

“The past six months have been a welcome reprieve from some of the extreme loud noise and violence,” said resident Aristia Glinka.

The county staff report for the permit had recommended approving the permit if the property owners agree to meet a series of conditions. However, Board members expressed concern that existing conditions had not been met, and there is no evidence that future conditions would be adhered to.

Although there have not been violent incidents during the past several months, Board members didn’t believe the owners had met the condition of fostering a relationship with the community. Tajalli did attend one Arlington Heights Civic Association meeting, but the Board said one meeting does not prove sufficient for making amends after all the previous years of poor relations.

“I think the neighbors are generally concerned about the lack of communication. We went over this in great detail last time,” Board member Walter Tejada said. “It’s really not acceptable from what I’ve heard so far, your lack of communicating.”

Another sticking point is Jorge Escobar’s continued involvement with the business. He has owned the property for more than a decade, including during the period when a previous entertainment permit was revoked.

The property currently has three partners who oversee the three different parts of the property — a restaurant, hookah bar and night club. Ali Tajalli, who manages the restaurant portion, said one business would not be able to handle the $15,000 a month cost of rent, so all three pay Escobar $5,000 each month.

Tajalli further explained his inability to keep the business open if the permit is not approved. He said that without all three partners contributing to the rent, the businesses will have to close in a matter of months. He asserted that being allowed to stay open until 2:00 a.m. for a six month trial period would keep the property afloat, while allowing an adequate period for the owners to prove themselves to the county.

Tejada countered that the county wants to work with small businesses, but the business owners have to be willing to cooperate as well. He said a business can succeed if it has the support of the surrounding neighborhood.

“We want small businesses to succeed,” said Tejada. “Notwithstanding there are certain conditions that should be met and need to be met.”

Board member Libby Garvey pointed out that the owners had previously been given two conditions to meet for permit approval: show a record of no new problems with the law and an effort to reach out to neighbors. Garvey said all signs point to the second condition not being met.

“You have proven yourself, so far, to not be doing what you said you would do. So we’re supposed to give you another chance?” Garvey said. “When you have met those conditions come back again, and then I’m willing to consider a lot of this.”

In the end, the Board members decided to defer the issue until December.

“We gave you very easy conditions to meet, if you had been intentional about doing it,” said Board member Jay Fisette. “You’ve failed in the first five months. We’re giving you three more months.”

Tejada said by the time December arrives, so much time will have been devoted to this one permit that he will be ready to give a simple “Yea” or “Nay” on the matter. He said there’s no reason to continue dragging out the process any longer.

“Personally, I’m not going to spend a lot of time on it,” said Tejada. “We cannot be going on and on about this.”

  • NIMBY the Chicken

    Leadership in action!

  • jackson

    Gotta feel for the guy running the hookah bar part of the place. How many smokes do you have to sell to raise $5k a month?

  • Squirgina Vare

    I wonder how often the words “violence” and “columbia pike” occur in the same article on this site. It seems like every story I read is about something bad is happening on the pike.

    Bring on the streetcar!

  • County board fail

    The county board hates small business. Why not just defer making a decision (like Garvey on the street car) until the business goes under. It’s the ‘ARlington Way’.

  • Regis

    What exactly do they want them to do as far as reaching out to the neighbors? That’s a poorly defined condition that obviously is letting the board hold this business hostage to their demands.

    Bottom line, the county would love for this business to continue, as long as it is squeezed into the ground floor of a new 24 story mixed-use building that the developer pays $5 million in community benefit money for the privilege of exceeding Arlington’s purposeful under-zoning of the site.

  • Electricbill

    It sounds like there is more to the story. I’ve never been in there. I’m just curious .What has happened there in the past? The article didn’t state any specific crime. With the county giving such a big push for Coulmbia Pike, it seems odd they’re dragging their feet on this place. What was the big crime that happenend in the past? Was there a murder or something? I also can’t see how the place would be any more noisey than any of the other clubs in the area.

  • David Tatted Up Wrenn

    I can’t stand it when people try to stop other people from having fun. There is nothing wrong with live music. Just leave them alone and let them play live music.

  • JnA

    How about a food review in ArlNow? Oh, can’t do that, it’s not a food truck and not in the located in the B-R corridor.


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