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Rosslyn Metro Station to Close This Weekend

by ARLnow.com — November 2, 2012 at 11:05 am 4,501 80 Comments

Blue and Orange Line riders should expect significant disruptions on Metro this weekend.

From about 10:00 p.m. tonight (Friday) to system closing on Sunday, the Rosslyn and Arlington Cemetery Metro stations will be closed and both the Blue and Orange lines will be split into two segments.

The closure will “allow for tie and insulator renewal, joint and fastener renewal, tunnel leak repair, station sign installation and fiber-optic cable work,” Metro said in a press release.

Free shuttle buses will replace trains between Courthouse and Foggy Bottom on the Orange Line, and between Pentagon and Foggy Bottom on the Blue Line. The two segments of each line — a Virginia segment and a D.C./Maryland segment — will operate “at regular weekend intervals.”

Metro says customers should anticipate 20-30 minutes of additional travel time and should consider alternate travel options, like accessing D.C. via trains traveling over the Yellow Line bridge.

Flickr pool photo by Chris Rief

  • Captain_Obvious

    “regular weekend intervals” are already an additional 20-30 minutes. So that means you’re looking at 40-60 minutes just to get into the city ? Hats off to you Metro !!

    • drax

      So they shouldn’t maintain the tracks?

      • BrianKal

        they should have done proactive years ago .. they openly admit they didn’t

        • Captain_Obvious

          Exactly.

          • drax

            So you wish they had delayed your trip to DC years ago instead of now. Wow.

            And then they’d have to do it again years from now.

            My point is that it is maintenance. It can’t be avoided. Get over it.

          • Alan

            When you change your oil on a regular basis it takes up less time and money than when your car dies after 5 years of neglecting your oil. See how that works?

          • drax

            So you’re saying they should disrupt service more often?

            And no, you haven’t shown that delayed maintenance has caused a need for additional maintenance.

          • Alan

            They are doing several tasks at once, instead of splitting them up and doing it while the system is shut down each night, incrementally. That is stupid planning and management, something Metro is well known for.

          • CW

            I doubt the system is fully powered down each night, and there is also the likelihood that some of the more technical tasks, which probably involve a full shut-down, performing of the work, and a number of levels of start-up and testing protocols to ensure correct performance, simply take longer than the 5 hours the system is shut down nightly. But what do I know?

          • Deadite

            Let it go, Drax. Some people just cannot fathom the idea that one of the nation’s most heavily-used transit systems may need to be maintained from time to time, and that – gasp! – this maintenance may interfere with their precious plans for a day!

          • Captain_Obvious

            NO ONE is saying there should be no maintenance.

          • Captain_Obvious

            At what point in my comment did I say to delay/avoid the maintenance ? Yea, I didn’t, so why do you feel the need to be comment policeman ? My point is how sucky and inefficient Metro is, I think EVERYONE can agree on that. Can you ?

          • Deadite

            No, I can’t agree on that. I ride the Metro all the time and think it’s great. That’s because I understand that any mode of transportation – whether it be subway, car, plane, whatever – will encounter some kind of a delay from time to time. Once you get over yourself and appreciate that, you will come to understand that the Metro is an incredibly convenient means of moving throughout the city.

          • drax

            Your comment sure seemed like you were whining about maintenance. No other conclusion possible, in fact.

            This is the delay that is required for maintenance. There’s no way around it.

          • Captain_Obvious

            draz (dynaroo)/deadite, I get it, Metro can be convenient, but more often than not, its a hassle. Saying something is a hassle or inefficient is not whining, just facts. How bout you 2 get over yourselves ?

          • CW

            You’re implying that maintenance should be able to be done solely within the confines of the normal off-hours system shutdown, and that might just not be technically feasible.

          • drax

            Saying something is a hassle is whining when everyone knows it already and there’s nothing you can do about it.

            Changing your oil is a hassle, but you don’t come here and whine about it either.

          • Ralph

            I do not agree that Metro is “sucky and inefficient”. It takes me from Arlington to DC and back reliably and fast.

          • Josh S

            I got no thoughts about delayed maintenance. However, I definitely would not agree that Metro is sucky and inefficient. It works the vast majority of the time and only gets a bad rap because of biases in people’s minds where they tend to focus on the events that stick out and ignore all the times that it just works cause that is boring and forgetable.

    • Right of Center

      I guess Metro couldn’t bribe enough people to take the Yellow Line with their free $5 promo deal. So now they’re playin hardball.

      • Deadite

        There’s a yellow line?

        • Captain_Obvious

          yea, you just said you ride Metro all the time…did you ever wonder what that yellow line on the map was ?

          • Deadite

            THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.

          • Captain_Obvious

            welcome.

  • novasteve

    CAR FREE DIET YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • ballsteve

      I know! A cab is completely unaffordable on the one weekend a year that Rosslyn station is closed, as compared to car ownership. Especially when we live in an area that is so difficult to walk around.

      • novasteve

        So only the 1% should be able to live here? Not every can afford $40 in cab fare even for one weekend a year.

        • ballsteve

          They can if they don’t have car expenses.

          • drax

            BINGO.

        • Captain_Obvious

          But they can afford to ride Metro everyday ?

      • drax

        Cab, bike, bus, Zipcar, walk to Rosslyn from Courthouse….

      • Hank

        Say what you will about NovaSteve, he is steadfast in his hatred of the Metro and public transportation in general.

        • novasteve

          Just metro, because they are incompetent boobs. If you’d lived your entire life in the DC area, you would understand this.

          • http://purple.com/purple.html Major Pup McPuppo

            heh u said boobs

          • Hank

            You’re cool with MetroBus? Alas, I have only lived here twelve years, so I am not entitled to any opinions. Sad Face Emoticon

          • Josh S

            Gosh, I’d think that living ones entire life in one place might actually make one less able to make comparisons / have perspective / place things in context.

            Metro works well.

        • Captain_Obvious

          You forgot everything else too, especially change.

          • SomeGuy

            I believe novasteve would support change in the White House this election cycle.

          • Captain_Obvious

            yep, I stand corrected.

  • NY22

    The worst run transit system in America

    • Deadite

      Ha! You’ve never been to Boston, have you? The Metro is actually better than most cities’ subways.

      • addctd2badideas

        I haven’t been back to Boston in a couple of years, but I was always impressed with the T. Ran on the weekends with no delays and I never had to wait more than 5 minutes.

        • CW

          That is nonsense. You never known when the T is coming, and it shuts down at like midnight on weekends.

          • Deadite

            Also, the MBTA practically wrote the book on corruption and robbing taxpayer funds. And I know the Green line is the oldest subway line in America, but you can walk faster than that thing travels.

      • Cate

        I lived there for years. The T is infinitely better than Metro, even though it closes earlier.

    • YTK

      Amen, NY22

    • Josh S

      I see Kev is using a psuedonym today….

  • Frivolous

    Money on not enough buses after the skins game Sunday

    • malaka

      or DC United play off Saturday

    • Josh S

      Wait, wait, wait. Snyder-boy buys the team, removes it from its centrally-located stadium well served by public transit to a location in the middle of nowhere, charges an arm and a leg to park there, makes it all but impossible to get there in any other way, and yet you blame Metro for not enough buses?!?!

  • novasteve

    I don’t understand why the NYC Subway designers back in the early 20th century had more foresight in design than the designers of Metro had in the 1970s…

    • Deadite

      Please explain.

      • novasteve

        NYC Subway has express tracks, so if there’s a broken train, they don’t necessarily have to single track, like we do. Somehow they thought about that in 1900, but not in the 1970s

        • Justin Russo

          Cheap-ass Republicans wouldn’t cough-up the extra money express tracks would cost.

        • Deadite

          I’m pretty sure NYC is the only city in America that has express tracks, and that’s because they NEED express tracks due to the city’s ridiculous size. There’s not enough need for it in DC to justify the added expense.

          You also need to keep in mind that the NYC subway system you see today isn’t the same system they had 80-90 years ago, not by a long shot.

          • novasteve

            Something tells me fewer people lived in NYC in 1900 than do today. Why could people in 1900, before airplanes even existed, before the Ford Model T, etc, could think ahead but not the designers of Metro? They have always had Express trains in NYC.

            Ever heard of that song “take the A train”? from the 1940s, still the fastest way to get to harlem. It’s an express train. It uses the center tracks as it’s not a local train. So why were 1940s New Yorkers thinking ahead while 1970s Metro people weren’t?

          • Hank

            There’s a cool book called the Great Society Subway that talks about this. One of the reasons they couldn’t or wouldn’t do a style similar to NYC is that there was so much existing infrastructure in DC that it would have been astronomically expensive to have excavate enough room for two pairs of tracks in both directions. It’s too bad because Metro would probably have far fewer issues with delays.

          • don’t go steve

            Wait, a *reason*?!?

            You mean it wasn’t because people I don’t know, operating years before I was even aware, involving decisions over which I know about 2% of the whole story, are morons?

            Nah. Can’t be. I’m definitely smarter than those morons.

        • drax

          Did it occur to you that it was probably some cranky anti-tax conservative whiners like you who forced Metro to scale down its budget that caused the lack of express tracks, genius?

          • novasteve

            You are completely speculating. If I said something about liberals by speculation about something you’d be throwing a hissy fit. Your speculation is dead wrong, as the Metro was completely designed and even construction was started when LBJ was still president.

          • Deadite

            Right, because I’m sure the President of the United States designed the layout, drew up the plans, and decided the budget of a local subway system.

          • novasteve

            Oh so then no doubt there are no express tracks due to conservatives. My bad.

          • drax

            Right – because LBJ was president, Metro had all the money it wanted. Do you understand how our government works even a little bit?

          • novasteve

            Okay, now do you have a shred of evidence that there are no express tracks due to conservatives?

          • entire ARLNow community

            *facepalm*

          • drax

            I didn’t say that. I asked if it occurred to you that this was a possibility.

          • drax
    • YTK

      NY is NY — this place is the stix

  • Paco

    Probably the worst funding model for transit in America.

  • DB

    Nice image to go with the brief. I like how the M lines up in the middle of the photo.

  • Right of Center

    “Free shuttle buses…” Wow so Newt is not only giving away free gas on the PIke but is now purchasing shuttle buses for Metro! What a guy!

  • Marron

    This is why I feel like more places should handle their repairs and construction the way Las Vegas does (I am a recent transplant to NoVA from Vegas). A large portion of construction in Las Vegas (on major roads and freeways at least) is done on the graveyard shift. If the metro is closed from midnight to 6am (or whatever), then they should be utilizing that time to get the repairs done instead of cramming it all into the weekends and disrupting entire days and ruining peoples’ weekends.

    • CW

      There is a high cost on margin to do this. Think about a simple job like painting a room in your house. You have to set up the dropcloths, get out the brushes, stir the paint at the beginning. After you are done, you have to clean up the dropcloths, wash out the brushes, put a lid on the paint cans. If you do the whole room in one shot, you have to do this once. If you do it in four segments on different days, you have to do it four times. Now imagine this with heavy machinery and high voltage. By the time they got everything in place and could get to work they would have to start packing up for the system to open in the morning. It is not an efficient model. Taking the system offline for the duration is more efficient.

      • drax

        Thank you!

  • Allie

    Marron, I think the issue has always been that the Metro is closed for so few hours on the weekend — from 2am to 5am or something ridiculous like that — that no substantial amount of work could be done in that time. In order to make real progress, and get it done in the next decade, they have to close whole stations.

    Which doesn’t change the fact that it’s going to be a total bitch getting from Ballston to Reagan National on Saturday morning for my flight. Sigh.

    • Mark P.

      Ballston to DCA is a $12 cab ride at most. Lots of cabs outside the Hilton on Stuart St. Hardly a bitch.

      • Mark P.

        *Stafford St.

        • CW

          I agree that it’s not going to be any more of “a bitch” than usual, considering that using metro to get from Ballston to DCA involves a weekend transfer and thus could easily take an hour. BUT, that said, tell me where you’re finding these $12 cabs to DCA?

  • dang!

    for you Northern ARCO folks….Just take 38B! bus…
    it runs from Ballston stop to FuggyButtun….

    MetroBus is the smarter fun brother to MetroRail..

    • Deadite

      Arlingtonites riding the loser cruiser? Keep dreaming!

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