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Cuccinelli Rips Arlington For HOT Lanes Suit

by ARLnow.com February 15, 2011 at 10:38 am 2,231 176 Comments

The anti-Arlington sentiment in Richmond and on the pages of local publications continues to grow.

This time, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is taking a few pointed shots at the county for its lawsuit against High Occupancy Toll lanes on I-395.

Forget the fact that the county has agreed to withdraw the lawsuit and the state has, for now, decided not to move forward with the I-395 portion of the HOT lanes project. In a statement, Cuccinelli piled on and called the lawsuit “dirty,” “legal thuggery” and “wildly unfounded.”

Cuccinelli also lobbed a sports metaphor at the board.

“When that pitcher throws multiple bean balls in a game, it is downright dirty, and the crowd wants the umpire to take action,” Cuccinelli said. “The Arlington County board has thrown several bean balls aimed at [government] officials, but they are hitting northern Virginia commuters, too.”

To be fair, Arlington officials haven’t always had the nicest things to say about Cuccinelli, either.

  • local

    Wow, the guy who goes off suing scientists in ridiculous witch hunts is complaining about Arlington’s lawsuit?

    Irony.

    • Arlwhenever

      No need to question scientists — we all know rain follows the plow.

      • local

        Question them all you want. Just don’t do it with unfounded lawsuits. It’s obvious that suit was about science, not law.

        • NPGMBR

          Cuccinelli sucks a big fat one!

    • TryTheTacos

      agreed!

    • steve

      Yes, becaues the climate was always the same until people starting burning fossil fuels in the 19th century! Never changed before! The ice age finally ended in the 19th century and the great lakes were formed int he 19th century.

  • Overgrown Bush

    He’s just calling a spade a spade.

    Maybe Arlington would have some money to fix potholes if they didn’t spend it all on attorneys.

    • Westover

      Look at all the under-employed J.D.’s in the county, the suits are a jobs rogram.

    • MC

      The pot is calling the kettle black here. Mr. Sue-them-cause-I-hate-their-politics has the audacity to cry gutter politics. Amazing.

  • G

    We got more out of this lawsuit than the board originally thought. Pissing off Cuccinelli is the cherry on top!

    • CrystalMikey

      “Excellent…” in the style of Mr. Burns

    • AllenB

      Worth every penny if The Cooch is upset.

    • JackFan

      +100

  • DB RADAR ALERT

    At least he did not write a paper about how women should not work while in (what is losely described as) law school in his mid 30s and then disclaim it while running for public office as an “adult”…nah, the AG is still a DB.

    • local

      😆

      Early 30s? Youthful indiscretion.

  • Lalaland

    I’m happy to hear about anything that makes this DB angry.

    A little odd of him to accuse a person/organization/government of being a thug. Pot meet black kettle.

  • ANON

    Cuch is a dick. no question.

    But so are all you Arlingtonites that don’t want any construction on the major thoroughfares near Arlington. That lawsuit was bullshit and you know it.

    Get over it. Progress is Progress, and that shamble of a metro system can’t support the thousands of people trying to get to Arlington and the District by itself.

    You made your bed with dozens of corporate and government offices now lay in it.

    • Lalaland

      and you made your bed in the outer suburbs. Now lay in it and deal with the traffic that you should have expected to deal with it.

      • Overgrown Bush

        Personally, I hope they DON’T stop coming into Arlington/DC in lieu of Tysons, Fairfax, PW, or other area to work. Next thing we know, we’ll all be complaining about where all the jobs went. Feds are moving out already, and it just going to keep happening.

        • Lalaland

          I’m not worried. Property values in Arlington a sky-rocketing and unlikely to drop any time. This is still a popular place to live and it’ll just open up space for higher-paying private sector jobs.

          • Westover

            I am sick of the back ups on I-66 and I-395. The Resident, Home Owner, and Property Tax Payer in Arlington would like some extra lanes to get traffic flowing, and am sick and tired of the self-rightiousness of some of my fellow Arlington Residents, particularly the renters who don’t even pay the property tax.

          • Overgrown Bush

            +1000000

          • Josh S

            In what way do renters not pay property taxes? Do you think the landlord just magnanimously sucks them up him/herself? They’re factored into the rent.

          • Westover

            You don’t see the bill, you don’t think about it, you just think the landlord is sticking it to you when they have to raise the rent to pay them. And those that are living the car free diet are also not paying the car tax that covers the funds for the roads and the metro subsidy.

          • local

            Sure, indirectly, but if you go around saying renters pay property tax, it leads you to the non-sensical statement that the property owners don’t pay the property tax.

          • bennynojets

            Very good point!

          • bennynojets

            Josh S has a very good point. Renters may not be as ignorant as some of the commentariat believe.

          • Lalaland

            Those renters, young 20 or 30 somethings, bring in a tremendous amount of income to this county. Without them we’d be stuck in the 70s. Why can’t money be spent to benefit all Northern Virginians rather than the drivers?

          • Westover

            They don’t bring that much, otherwise they would be buying up the glut of Condos and help that market recover.

          • Overgrown Bush

            They certainly buy a lot of beer and pizza.

          • Vik

            I hate these HOT lanes b/c of the way the contract is set up with the state getting shafted. But, we need both roads and transit. Ideologues on both sides have become insufferable.

          • MC

            Sorry, Westie. I pay hefty property taxes, and don’t agree. I have little sympathy for people in the back-ups: they choose to drive, and need live with the consequences of their choices instead of scapegoating others. Far too many people want to imagine they live “just minutes from Washington DC” when in fact they live dozens of miles away. Vent your frustration about backups on them: they are unrealistic.

          • Overgrown Bush

            Actually, people in Arlington “choose” to drive. People in areas not served by mass transit “must” drive. Be critical of your neighbors for their “choice” as they head out in their car in the morning. But don’t be critical of those who must drive and endure the continued lack of long-term transportation planning this area endures. You see, Arlington doesn’t have room for everyone. Neither does the existing transportation infrastructure in Arlington. Get real on what a “choice” is.

          • MC

            All Arlingtonians have the option not to drive — plenty of buses to get to your end destination. If “Overgrown Bush” decides to drive, it isn’t because he lacks choices. As for not everyone being able to live here, no one prevents legal entry into Arlington, to the best of my knowledge. And no one discourages others from copying what’s been successful here transportation wise either — quite the contrary. Really, need to accept some personal responsibility here for one’s own actions, instead of blaming phantom circumstances.

          • Overgrown Bush

            Let’s move all of Fairfax, Prince William, and Loudoun’s population into Arlington. First, it can’t be done. And, if it could, I’d not want to live here anymore.

    • local

      No.

      I don’t have to put up with being paved over just because some idiots want to live in the outer ‘burbs with an acre of land. Smart growth is progress. More highways are yesterday’s solution.

      • Overgrown Bush

        Like you never use a highway…. Drive to visit relatives? What gives you the right to pass your car through a road that was paved over some poor sole’s farm? Oh, right, the highway was there and available to be used.

        • local

          I don’t oppose highways.

          I do oppose widening them over and over. And this won’t be the last time they ask for a new lane. It will continue, until we have a 12-lane or more highways running over our town. There are better alternatives, and we have to choose them now.

          • Overgrown Bush

            Tell that to Metro who’s service sucks, have too few trains, and are proposing contraction of hours! You tout mass transit, but look at it! I agree….roads are not “the” solution. They are part of it. Fix the metro. Expand the metro. Make it more desirable for those who CHOOSE to drive. But also improve the road infrastructure for those to HAVE to drive.

          • Lalaland

            I think fixing Metro would ultimately make the driving conditions of those who foolishly choose to drive much better. Just divert the billions on roads to billions on a new blue line tunnel and more trains. Won’t fund it all, of course, but will significantly help improve all of our commutes, rather than just the drivers’

          • Overgrown Bush

            People in Arlington headed to DC and drive CHOOSE to drive. Most of the folks from Fairfax, PW, and other outer areas HAVE to drive. Some can bus or carpool because their situation allows. Others may take VRE. But, most of them really have no choice but to get behind the wheel. Maybe if Arlington were progressive enough to build 100-story condos over the whole county they’d all move closer to ride the existing metro. How much fun would that really be?

          • mehoo

            “Most of the folks from Fairfax, PW, and other outer areas HAVE to drive.”

            Yes. That’s the problem.

          • Overgrown Bush

            Yes, mehoo, that is the problem. Another problem is the idea that no road improvements occur when there are NO PLANNED mass transit options for these people. Face it, Metro is in a state of decline! These drivers have no reason for optimism for anything other than road improvements. I’m all for rail lines everywhere, bike paths, AND roads. But, what is on the books? Zip.

          • JJ

            Good point. Nothing likely to be be built in the future either – can’t afford to maintain the roads, bridges and rail we have now. It will be a slow process but as our nation’s transportation infrastructure degrades, people and the things we need to survive (jobs, food, friends and family) will migrate closer to one another.

          • Sheriff Gonna Getcha

            Back to this Metro argument again. The system is almost at max capacity already people.

            You cant bury your heads in the sand and say no more roads. Metro is way more expensive to expand than building more roads. There are serious reliability issues, funding issues, design issues and capacity issues with the Metro system. It is not the holy grail of transportation to and from DC and around Arlington.

            All of these people who are against expanding the highways – do none of you ever drive??

            You are like the people who complain about bad roads but then complain when they want to increase the gas tax to fund repairs. Or you complain about the government not doing enough to fight crime but you bitch when they need to raise taxes to hire more police officers.

            If you want more from your government, you have to pay for it. Money doesnt just appear out of nowhere. You are simply ignorant.

          • mehoo

            So Metro is at capacity. So is I-395.

            Why is the solution to expand 395 and not Metro? Or better yet, other alternatives like new transit options and changing unsustainable development patterns? (Those two go hand in hand by the way).

          • Sheriff Gonna Getcha

            mehoo: I dont think its “the” answer to expand 395, just as its not “the” answer to expand metro.

            It is more economically feasible to expand 395 than it is to expand Metro. Adding another track for express trains for instance would probably cost in the billions of dollars. You can add 2 lanes of highway in each direction for much cheaper.

            My suggestion is to do a combination of both. Add some more lanes but also increase funding to metro to make it reliable. Add a congestion tax on cars to pay for it. All trains b/t 630am and 10am be 8 cars. Start sending some blue line trains over yellow line bridge to increase service from ballston through rosslyn on orange line. But you must do both to handle the increased growth.

            The region has been using band-aid solutions the last 10 years. That will not work anymore.

          • mehoo

            New lanes are economical only if you consider just the prices of the lane, and not all the costs.

            I agree – band-aid solutions don’t work. Just widening highways is a band-aid solution. We have to move to a new level of transportation instead of just expanding the existing one. We’re a city whether we like it or not, and we can’t depend too much on roads.

          • Sheriff Gonna Getcha

            Mehoo, as soon as you said new level of transportation, the first thing that came to my mind was a double decker highway over 395. Now that is some innovative thinking.

            But seriously, what do you mean by that? People move further out b/c they cant afford to have a decent quality of life at the price points in Arlington. Many people simply cannot afford it. I have to rent b/c I am priced out of the Arlington market and I make more than the average person does.

          • Boom! Roasted

            Sheriff: It means nothing. For smarter growth Arlington will need to start tearing up those quiet little neighborhoods just off of Wilson/Clarendon/Fairfax and putting in more high-rises. Somehow I don’t think everyone is going to appreciate that kind of progress…

      • Rick

        local, would your property be affected by the installation of HOT lanes?

        • local

          I’m not right next to 395 if that’s what you mean, no.

    • ANON

      I actually LIVE IN ARLINGTON. I just apparently don’t drink your Kool-Aid

      and bullshit you’re getting paved over. Come back and comment when they take your front yard.

      • ANON

        Not to mention. Think about the boon to the economy of the state of Virginia from all those people coming up 95 that work in DC…..have you considered that? Or would you rather them not make as much money and have a worse off economy, school system, health to go along with it

        • Lalaland

          huh? How would building billions of dollars worth of additional highways bring money to Virginia? If anything it would take it away. First, you’d spend money on the HOT lanes (which will ultimately lose Virginia money because they would likely have to pay fines – see the terms of the contract). Second, let’s just say you add roads, that means more people might (and that’s a big might because traffic wouldn’t improve anyway) be tempted to work in DC and buy lunch or perform other errands over the state line. If Virginia adopted smart urban planning policies they would adopt strategies that keep Virginians and their tax dollars in the state.

          • local

            +1,000,000

          • Lalaland

            I like you local

            Ah the benefits of a slow work day. I get to yell at people on ARLnow.

          • local

            Wish it were slow, but I’m pretty busy now. Little ARLNOW breaks keep me sane.

          • ANON

            ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT A WASTE OF MONEY?

            ARE YOU AWARE OF THE LAWSUIT???! You’re a joke!

          • Lalaland

            This will be my last response here, because frankly you’ve become a waste of time.

            If you want to see the myths of the lawsuit, see the link I posted below.

            But if you think the lawsuit was expensive, think what building additional highways would cost and how little benefit they would bring.

            Go ahead, attack me again.

          • Westover

            Actually they would have brought a lot of benefit and had the potential to bring in a lot of revenue.

          • ANON

            attack? this isn’t a battlefield.

            but continue to try and win the war against those hun invaders (or neighbors if you weren’t a dick) trying to sit in less traffic

          • local

            Revenue?

          • local

            ANON,

            Building huge new lanes isn’t the only way to get people out of traffic, and probably isn’t the best way.

          • ANON

            I guess we’ll see after the HOT lanes below arlington are put in, more traffic moves more quickly, and an even worse bottleneck occurs on 395

          • Overgrown Bush

            And you know what happens when traffic on a highway becomes stagnant. People start dumping off the exits onto the side streets to bypass it. Welcome to 395’s and Arlington’s future.

          • ANON

            PRECISELY

        • local

          I don’t have a problem with people coming up here, just with how they get here.

          • Overgrown Bush

            What is the best way for a commuter to get to Crystal City from Annandale? 395. God forbid he/she earn a living.

          • local

            The best way is to drive. Don’t you wish other drivers had more choices so they could get off the roads and out of your way?

          • Overgrown Bush

            Absolutely. But I’m talking real world. No lalaland…uh, fantasy land.

          • mehoo

            Right, it’s a fantasy. You can’t do anything but build highways. Nothing else is possible. :rolleyes:

          • Overgrown Bush

            I’m not saying you can’t. I’m saying the REALITY is there is NOTHING on the books other than Silver Line. Nada. Zip. Zilch. If you can get someone to move their ass, get funding, and execute the start of a real mass transit solution for the area I will personally proclaim you King! Until we even see the hint of a start, it is a fantasy, yes.

          • madisonmanor

            The short answer is to have them move from Annandale to Skyline. Then Mr. Zimmerman’s wonderful trolley line will take them wherever they need to go.

          • Overgrown Bush

            Uh, nope. It will take them to the Pentagon and Pentagon City though.

          • madisonmanor

            I’m sure with such an impressive sense of civic duty and responsibility, mehoo would be happy to pick them up at Pentagon or Pentagon City and carpool them to Crystal City. Oh, wait – I wouldn’t want to get blasted for assuming something. . . I guess that’s the price they pay for daring to leave the county. If only they had the consideration to live and work in the county they wouldn’t have a problem.

          • Boom! Roasted

            lol

          • DouroRouro

            You came up with the idea, why don’t you do it? Unless you have no civic duty yourself…

          • madisonmanor

            Mostly because mehoo can be so indignant and pompous if someone has a differing opinion than his – and besides, somebody had to deflect the comments from steve. I also have other civic duties I perform **GASP** OUTSIDE of Arlington, and since we don’t have good highways to get me from those communities back into Arlington, I just can’t reliably provide that transportation.

      • local

        Some people’s front yards have been paved over literally, but it’s a metaphor.

        I don’t think I need to suffer to subsidize the lifestyles of those further out. Sorry you’re willing to just roll over.

        • ANON

          lalaland seems to nicely point out why arlingtons don’t want expansion of an aging highway

          because they don’t want it. just because. because you live there and you chose to.

          congrats arlington! you’re now the dicks of VA. enjoy!

          • Lalaland

            Nah. Just the smarter/better ones.

          • Overgrown Bush

            Some of our heads are enlarged enought to think so anyway.

          • local

            Right, ANON. Any time the government comes along and says they want to build a huge thing in your neighborhood, you’re a dick if you dare to oppose it.

          • Westover

            What huge thing is being built? With the exception of an interchange at Shirlington on undeveloped space, the proposed lanes on 395 & 66 are within the current right of way.

          • Overgrown Bush

            Yeah, and a right-of-way is an easement with an existing agreement.

          • JackFan

            Well – you’re the dick of this board. Congrats on that.

          • JackFan

            clarification – the dick of this board comment was directed towards ANON…

        • Westover

          I-66 gave a few of my neighbors BIGGER yards, or at least free open space next to their homes. The current I-66 Right of way has space to add more lanes without hurting anyone’s home.

          • Lou

            So glad they are finally starting to add lanes there.

          • Westover

            It took too darn long, and was limited from the full scope of what is needed. But, atleast it is a start.

          • local

            Well, that doesn’t include the people whose yards were taken altogether, of course.

            I’m sure you’d love to live right next to an interstate so you can have a bigger yard, huh Westover?

          • Westover

            I live less than a block away. The I-66 project provided a lot of park space. A few folks did lose their homes, and that is unfortunate, but they were VERY well compensated. There are a few homes next to the right of way that I would happily move into if they were on the market at the right price.

          • local

            You do that.

          • Westover

            The interesting thing is that the sound abatement walls and berms do an excellent job of muffling the road noise, it is the Mass Transit Metro Trains that make the loud noises. The fares charged do not come close to covering the true costs of Metro, so maintenance is deferred and now wheels and track whine and squeal.

      • Josh S

        Looks like I forgot to include paranoid.

    • Josh S

      Typical incoherent blather.

    • JackFan

      Please…you act as if DC is just going to fold up and die. Give me a break. All you whiners that sacrificed proximity for space – too bad. Suck it up and get used to the fact that Arlington isn’t here to be your throughway.

      • Bluemonter

        +1,000,000,000,000,0000

      • local

        + another 1,000,000,000,000

      • jan

        and another

      • Overgrown Bush

        Don’t listen to JackFan. Some of us want you to come through here and spend your money in our businesses. We welcome you!

    • BoredHouseWife

      You can use the HOV lanes. It’s called carpooling. It is ridiculous that Arlington county is expected to roll over because people are too lazy to utilize what is already put in place.

      • Overgrown Bush

        Have you EVER regularly commuted from anywhere outside of the beltway in? You don’t seem to be in touch with the reality of the problem.

    • Bobin

      Do you mean lie in it?

    • jjbug

      Hey, calm down, and try another thought. Consider this announcement on the Great Falls National Park website:

      Please spend for transit to this grand park! Perhaps it is wiser to close all national parks without transit services! Or are they only for the enjoyment of rich people? Is this a way to keep the empty-pockets crowd off your streets?

      What Arlington is trying to point out is that those in the outer suburbs have no transportation plans – habits – sense – interest, except for their desire to drive to central DC whenever they want to. There is more to be done! If you do not have public transportation for your maids, waiters, shopclerks and yard workers, you require them to fill your local roads with cars and keep you tied up in stop & go traffic while you want to move fast. Build a bus route in your area now! Connect with Metro from your bus route. Make it easy for more to use public transit and the roads will be clearer for some who can afford gas in the future.

      In 1970, an AF friend in Arlington opened the map insisting we use the beltway as the outer limit for our house-hunting efforts on the grounds that everything beyond that would require too long a commute to the Pentagon! His thinking was right then and is now.
      —–
      Great Falls Park is not located on any public transportation routes. There is no access to public transportation from the park by foot or bicycle.

      The closest Metro stations to the park are Dunn Loring and West Falls Church, on the Orange Line. Both stations are located seven to ten miles away from the park. To get to the park from Metro, it will be necessary to take a cab.

      The park is close to two major airports. Dulles International is sixteen miles from the park. Reagan International, which does have Metro access, is located twenty miles from the park. Cab service is available from both locations.

      The closest major train station is located in Washington D.C. Union Station has Metro access, and trains also run to BWI International Airport, near Baltimore. It is possible to take Metro from Union Station to West Falls Church, and then to take a cab the rest of the way to the park.

      • Westover

        I do not know what there might be today, but twenty years ago, there was a Metro Bus stop at the corner of Old Dominion Drive and Georgetown Pike, the entrance to Great Falls Park. Of course there is a long walk from the enterance to the falls themselves.

  • Steve

    How about this..since Arlington seems to be the “fly in the ointment” when it comes to building better roads into DC, how about the fed government taking back the land it gave back to VA when Arlington and Alexandria were part of the intended land mass for the new national capital? Simply invoke old contracts and that Arlington and Alex are now Washington DC WEST..then they can build all the roads they want through the county. (just kidding of course…sort of)

  • FrenchyB

    The HOT lane deal with Fluor is flat-out a horrible deal for the state. The GreaterGreaterWashington blog has some excellent posts that highlight how this deal is still going to cost the state a ton of money.

  • CadeTyler

    Doesn’t he have any statues to cover up this week?

  • ANON

    I’d like to close by saying. I’m sure no one on here is really going to change their stance on whether or not they want more lanes on 395 and 66.

    But I’d like to bring to light the fact that supporters of Arlington’s lawsuit are no less dicks than Cuccinelli is. No way around it.

    • Overgrown Bush

      Perhaps. But the roads are still full of potholes because Arlington has to pay the lawyers.

  • steve

    I LOVE this guy because he pisses off liberals so badly. I hope he’s the next gov of VA. If you don’t like it you sissy liberals, move back to where you are from. Transients.

    • mehoo

      You’re the one who seems to whine so much about everything. You leave.

      • Steve

        Why should I have to leave my home? I’m from here. You’ll be back in kansas within 2 years.

        • mehoo

          Then stop whining. I’m not leaving.

          • steve

            Yes you will. All of you transients eventually leave. Problem is, there’s always a replacement transient for the ones that leave.

          • DouroRouro

            I was born here, love living here, and I’m a center-left kind of guy. What’s your point? Thankfully, VA isn’t full of ignorant folk like you, otherwise, who knows where we’d be?

            And for the record, Cuccinelli is an embarrassment more than anything else.

    • whomee

      It’s even better because all these irate comments demonstrate again how out of touch Arlington is with the rest of Virginia – just like the last election

      • local

        So? That’s a good thing.

      • BoredHouseWife

        You know abolitionist and suffragists were “out of touch” with the majority. A majority doe not equal correctness. In fact the majority of NoVa wants something that will be obsolete months after it is built, er I mean repainted. Then the rest of NoVa will want Arlington to sacrifice something else.

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/digest/traffic4.htm

        http://www.walkablestreets.com/wide.htm

        • Westover

          The immediately over-capacity multi-billion dollar silver line?

    • JackFan

      instead of sissy liberals – how ’bout chicken hawks like steve leave? that will have the added effect of contributing to urban beautification.

      • steve

        Why should I leave my home? So you Prius with Obama sticker driving liberals can be happy that you’ve messed up Arlington? So you can gloat about how great liberalism at one of the many starbucks here about how sophisticated you are?

        Fact, virtually all of you are transients who thought you were too important for where you were from, and decided to move here. You are narcisists, with personality disorders. Fortunately for you libs, the DSM V is removing most personality disorders because they have become so common.

        • DouroRouro

          So liberals messed up Arlington, huh? I didn’t realize it was such a terrible hellhole. Guess I imagined Arlington’s presence in all those “Best of” lists.

  • Circular Logic Alert

    So. Let me get this straight. Somehow renters are “lesser” citizens as the portion of their rent going to property taxes somehow doesn’t factor in. Moreover, those of us who forgo a car are in the same class- no car, no car tax, somehow creating a tax disparity amongst those Arlingtonians who excersise their right to own a home and drive a car. Somehow us renters, in furthermore exercising our right to rent as opposed to own one of those “glutted” condos, are creating an even greater disparity in tax burden. Yet we get to vote! Wow-hold on, I have an idea- let’s make that only car-driving property owners are allowed the franchise! Indeed- you’re a Constituntional Originalist- you’ll see that the framers set it up just like that! No property- no vote (we won’t go into the slavery issue and how you deal with native americans). Wow- You’re So Olde Skool dude! Sounds good to me. Let’s just take my franchise away as I don’t CHOOSE to own property but CHOOSE to rent but, sadly, I vote. Aren’t I pesky? Oh- and yeah, maybe I should just cross the bridge and eat in say, Georgetown, as apparently my money spends differently than the Landed Gentry of Ye Olde Arlington. I tip my hat to you, my lord!

    • Westover

      Start knocking the folks who pay the bills with all the anti-road rhetoric and those paying the bills will start to knock back.

      • local

        What’s that mean?

        • Just for fun

          Honestly who cares what Westover means – he lives in Westover which is practically south arlingtion compared to the nice parts of the county.

          • Westover

            Now you are funny.

  • J W Comer

    Wow! If Cuccinelli is against it, I’m in favor of it!

    • steve

      Cuccinelli didn’t vote for Obama, therefore he must be a racist!

      Everyone who doesn’t share my liberal views is a bigot!

      I am so tolerant!

      • brif

        you’re pretty good at strawman arguments, i’ll give you that

      • mehoo

        You’ve got a mighty big rightwing chip on your shoulder there, Steve.

        • steve

          shouldn’t you be thinking of things to ban, you know, everything you don’t approve of, you oh so tolerant progressive person?

          • mehoo

            When did I ever say I’m tolerant, Steve? You’re assuming again.

    • Westover

      You are an unfortuante reflection of the political view of too many Arlingtonians and Americans.

  • DCU_Phan

    “Cuccinelli piled on and called the lawsuit ‘dirty,’ ‘legal thuggery’ and ‘wildly unfounded.'”

    Haha! Oh the irony… What a douche.

  • JackFan

    Cuccinelli is a clown. Who cares what this joke of a politician thinks?

    • steve

      I’d much rather have him than some of the complete nutjobs that the liberals have, like Cynthia Mckinney. Oh, and nice corrupt ones youve got like rangel, who has his seat for life.

      • brif

        Mckinney and rangel were elected to public office in virginia?

        • steve

          Fine if you’re going to be like that, have fun with your antisemite Jim Moran. Maybe he can blame jews some more for the Iraq war or blame the election losses on americans hating Obama because he’s black?

          Some find individuals you libs have amongst your ranks.

          • mehoo

            LOL. “If you’re going to be that way.” Cooch didn’t run against Moran either.

            The guy Cooch beat was named Stephen Shannon. Go look up his record. Or better yet, just insult him based on nothing but wild assumptions. More your style.

      • local

        Next time Cooch is running against Cynthia McKinney, let us know.

        The guy Cooch beat was hardly a whack liberal. Try again.

        • steve

          But you no doubt are a proud supporter of race baiter and antisemite, Jim Moran, aren’t you?

  • Robert

    Cuccinelli is one huge A$$. Arlington made the right decision for Arlington and C’s opposition confirms that it was the right decision.
    Proud to be an Arlingtonian.

    • steve

      And no doubt, you are ashamed that Arlington is part of Virginia, right?

      I bet if you look at signs like “lee highway” you get highly offended on behalf of other people, right?

      I bet even pershing offends you because he was a “man of war” and libbies hate wars unless its for a marxist cause or against Israel.

      • mehoo

        There you go, making stupid assumptions again, steve. Stop setting yourself up for failure.

        You threw in a “marxist’ and “libbies” and “Israel” too, all in one post. Your paranoid right-wing head is starting to spin now, huh?

        • steve

          Can you please go into how Israel is an apartheid state and is committing genocide? I could use a laugh at the liberal insanity and stupidity of not knowing what words mean.

          Libbies like you are so upset at Israel for building a wall, because it stopped the suicide bombs. It upsets you SO much.

      • JackFan

        Steve – please go back to the Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck fan sites and leave the thinking to sentient beings please. Thanks.

        • mehoo

          Uh-oh, somebody’s about to be called a libbie marxist who isn’t really tolerant, etc.

        • steve

          EVeryone who isn’t a hardcore liberal isn’t a human being!

          • mehoo

            Nobody said that or even came close to saying it. You’re a gigantic, cigar-smoking strawman-builder.

        • Patrick

          That’s right JackFan because anyone that is a conservative has to be a sarah palin and glenn beck fan. I don’t think the word “conservative” even existed before those two came to national prominence. Any more typical liberal stereotypes you’d like to add?

          • JackFan

            Did I say anyone that’s conservative? No – I said steve in particular. Have you read his posts? He’s all over this entire board making disparaging statements about ‘libs/marxists/socialists etc’. Just trying to bait people. I’ve fallen for it and will stop feeding the troll.
            Care to make some more knee-jerk assumptions as to my opinion? Feel free.

          • steve

            No, it’s because liberal invaders like you have ruined this area. You came from whatever crap liberal state you are from, and came here. Why don’t you guys go back to where you are from? I don’t move to your state and start imposing conservative values on you, do I? Why don’t YOU leave?
            This is VIRGINIA.

            Not haight street.

    • Westover

      Ken Cuccinelli and Steve Shannon are both good men and both served the Commonwealth well as prosecutors. Both are also from Fairfax. If anyone thinks that Shannon’s views would have differed from Cuccinelli on the HOT lanes you are crazy.

  • I know this is a losing battle for this particular article, but can we please try to maintain a civil, thoughtful debate?

    Comments that make use of pejoratives or ad hominem attacks are subject to removal without notice.

    • GMo

      In other words…

      PLEASE DON’T FEED THE TROLLS!

  • Overgrown Bush

    Let’s all just get along! To divert the nastiness, here’s some history to read.

    http://www.roadstothefuture.com/Shirley_Highway.html

  • Overgrown Bush

    And here is something on commuter rail in VA, non-Metro. Note that current ridership (which seems to be maxed, limited by infrastructure) is one lane of interstate traffic.

    http://www.roadstothefuture.com/VRE_Commuter_Rail.html

  • Westover

    Ken Cuccinelli and Steve Shannon are both good men and both served the Commonwealth well as prosecutors. Both are also from Fairfax. If anyone thinks that Shannon’s views would have differed from Cuccinelli on the HOT lanes you are crazy.

    • Bluemonter

      your are crazy! Cuccinelli should be sued! I think the ACLU or some other organization is probably preparing to do just that… Then we can spend tax dollars defending this idiot! HEY KEN THE WORLD IS NOT FLAT!

      • steve

        No doubt you are a one of those libs that thinks that climate change is 100% man made and humans can STOP climate change.

        Crazy libs. I’d advise you to take even a high school level course on the geologic history of the earth, so you can find out things like how the Great lakes were formed, how Fjords were formed, about snowball earth, etc…

      • Westover

        Sued for what? He is doing what folks elected him to do. Nothing should be a surprise to anyone. Don’t agree with his political views and moves, then fight him in the legislature and when he runs for another office. Why would anyone think that he or Shannon would support the anti-HOT Lane campaign?

        • steve

          He dares not share the views of liberals, and to libs, that’s a crime. For how tolerant liberals claim to be, they aren’t very tolerant of opinions that don’t agree with theirs.

          Watch this, I’ll imediately get called a racist on here if I say I won’t be voting for Obama in 2012.

  • Zack

    I don’t see what the problem is. Just get a helicopter and be done with it all.

    • Overgrown Bush

      Big problem. Parts of Arlington are no-fly zones.

  • Ballston Res

    F! Cuccinelli

  • el fat kid

    @Westover,

    Once again you throw out baseless crapola… Regardless of your feelings on highway expansion – owning for renting does not determine an individual’s positive or negative impact on county revenue. There are several variables, far too numerous to list here.

    One might argue that a person who owns a home in Arlington, Westover neighborhood, for example, is more likely to have kids (costing the county about $15,000/kid/year), not go out as often (costing thousands and in lost revenue for both the county and local businesses) and more likely to bitch about roads, speedbumps, and other types of infrastructure(fits perfectly in your case). You actually owe the county an additional $23,000/year to make up for the drain you and your family puts on govt resources beyond the couple thousand bucks in property taxes you believe entitles you to a pedestal.

    Lucky for you, that number is completely made up, based in generalizations of economic/market data that neither of us are familiar with. In the meantime, your pathetic and baseless attacks should cease.

    • el fat kid

      sorry for the typos. exhausted.

  • MC

    If you are concerned about congestion on I-66, here is a true story about why it get’s so bad, and why HOV-2 should be HOV-3. A woman I work with, who doesn’t like riding Metro and finds using Route 50 too annoying for her commute from western Fairfax County, frequently has her husband drive her to work on I-66. They are a car pool, as defined by HOV-2 rules. The husband drops her off near Rosslyn, then heads back on I-66 to his job in Fairfax. In the evening, he does the reverse, uses I-66 to drive to Arlington to pick up his wife, then they are a “car pool” that can use I-66 East to go back to Western Fairfax.

  • John Andre

    Cuccinelli is a righty ideologue who should NEVER have been elected Attorney General of Virginia–he’s even an embarassment to Gov. McDonnell on occasion.

    • steve

      screw democracy!

  • Wow

    Wow, a public-funded lawsuit that Cuccinelli doesn’t like?! Hard to believe, given all the wasteful, counterproductive suing he is doing these days. No surprise that the one suit he doesn’t like aims to look out for local voters’ interests and needs, not his own national standing.

    Cuccinelli, maybe you should put away the violin and step away from the mikes long enough to start noticing and focusing on the needs of Virginians.

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