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by ARLnow.com March 9, 2011 at 8:03 am 1,529 44 Comments

Cycling Through Arlington National Cemetery — The one-month closure of the Wright gate to Fort Myer will affect some cyclists who travel through Arlington National Cemetery. One blogger argues that the closure should be used as an opportunity to expand cycling privileges in the cemetery. [Greater Greater Washington]

Yorktown High Students Advance to National History Bowl — Not one but two Yorktown High School teams are advancing to the National History Bowl Championship after finishing third and fourth in the Virginia competition. A total of eight Yorktown students will compete at the championship in the District next month. [Arlington Public Schools]

Car-Free Diet Skeptics Found — Arlington County found five individuals who were skeptical about ditching their car for 30 days, but who were willing to try it anyhow. In the end, only two Skeptics will be chosen; the public will be able to vote for their favorite through the end of the month. Disclosure: Arlington County Commuter Services is an advertiser. [Car-Free Diet Skeptics]

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  • bob

    Really? Turn ANC into a bike thruway? Have you no shame, sir?

    • South Arlington

      It already is going down the hill. Probably a lot less invasive than the tour buses and Tourmobiles carrying loud tourists through ANC.

      • bob

        It is allowed downhill, I’d ban it immediately.

    • local

      Nobody said to make it a “bike thruway.” Bikes are already allowed in there.

      • bob

        other than using the cemetery as a short-cut, why else would you need a bike lane?

        • local

          Same reason people need roads and sidewalks, to get around.

          I don’t know the details, all I know is that I see people declaring unilaterally that bikes don’t belong in cemeteries without thinking about it more.

  • OX4

    I’m all for creating bike lanes and sharing the road, and I try and bike as much as I can as part of my commute. But good grief, do we really need to bike through a cemetery? What’s wrong with having one bit of property off limits?

    • local

      Are bikes disturbing anyone or doing anything to dishonor or whatever the cemetery though?

    • local

      What about tourmobiles? If gawking at graves from a bus by tourists shouldn’t be banned, what should?

      • OX4

        Except tourmobiles actually serve a purpose, and those tourists (at least most) are there to see and appreciate the lives lost by service members. The buses are an alternative to having everyone in that bus drive through the cemetery individually. And they are also necessary for the disabled and elderly.

        It would be nice to keep the place quiet and respectful. I don’t want to hear two spandex boy bikers screaming at each other about the next race as they pant up the hill.

        • local

          So all thru traffic should be banned, while all tourist traffic, including bikes, should be allowed? Perhaps.

        • local

          I’ll take an athletic spandex boy over a hairy fat slob tourist in a tanktop any day.

        • CW

          The service members gave their lives so that we could enjoy the freedom afforded to us as Americans. I doubt that they would mind if those freedoms includded cycling through the cemetary in which they are buried.

          • OX4

            Oh brother.

            I’m not going to argue over what dead people think. I just think biking associations need to pick their battles. Let’s concentrate on ensuring bicyclists are safe and laws are enforced, including the addition of more bike lanes on roads. Creating a fuss over ANC is just bickering about convenience for a few bikers.

          • local

            I’m sure they would thank you for your advice.

          • MB

            No cycling association/org is involved here. It’s one writer/cyclist who wondered whether the closure of one of Ft. Myer’s gates might make it a good idea to open another to two way traffic. That’s it.

          • CW

            That’s the “beauty” of the internet, isn’t it? One guy’s font is just as big as another’s. A single random person posts some musings on a blog and it creates such a ruckus that you’d think it came via decree from the Federal government.

  • Chad

    Glad to see I’m not the only one who was surprised by this post. There are no vehicles in ANC other than families visiting a grave site. Bikes should not be an exception. There is no jogging, bicycling, soccer games, picnics/bbqs. It’s a place to visit and pay respects – not a thoroughfare.

    • South Arlington

      There already is bicycling through the access road between the Chapel Gate and the gate near Memorial Bridge, it’s just one-way right now (only downhill). There also are plenty of vehicles in ANC, including Tourmobiles, tour buses and landscaping trucks. The article just asked that this access road be opened to 2 way traffic during the 6 week Wright Gate closure, instead of the current one way flow.

      • local

        Thanks for this post.

        Chad, you assume the world is just like you think it is or ought to be. Get your facts straight. The fact that bikes have been going through the cemetery for as long as anyone can remember – and nobody here complained – proves how silly this uproar is.

  • Easton

    Please, bike activists, find another venue for your hobby.

    Given how obnoxious bike riders seem to be in general – bullying pedestrians and ignoring any type of traffic law – the thought of turning our National Cemetery into a big bike path is appalling.

    • local

      Bikes are already allowed there. Yet you didn’t notice, because it’s no big deal.

      Do you want to ban tourmobiles? Or tourists altogether?

      • MB

        I’m looking forward to the calls to close Memorial Drive and Route 110. All that noxious humanity that passes by is so disrespectful.

      • Easton

        If the tourmobiles wanted to pass through the Cemetery on a joyride, I’d say to ban them.

        Pass-through traffic in a Cemetery, whether bikes, joggers, or whatever, is simply disrespectful. There are plenty of parks and trails around Arlington that have been established for the purpose of recreation. Have some respect, and use them instead.

        • local

          I’d say gawking at graves from a tourmobile isn’t exactly respectful.

          Let’s all get some perspective here.

          • Lou

            So would you support banning tourists from the Cemetery because you think they’re being disrespectful? Have you ever seen any tourists being disrespectful there, or are you just projecting?

          • local

            No, I wouldn’t. Would you?

          • Lou

            Why would I be against letting people pay respectful visits to the Cemetery?

            Easton has the best point. Visitors are welcome, commuters are not. That’s it in a nutshell, if I’ve misrepresented Easton’s comment, my apologies.

        • ossipago

          I guess we should shut down the Blue Line. It’s totally being disrespectful, allowing the vast majority of riders to pass through the cemetery.

          • CW

            Yeah, seriously, what a bunch of anti-American disrespectful passers-through. I bet they desecrate graves as they fly by on the way to Alexandria.

  • ZombieHero

    It’s just a bunch of dead people. Be nice to see a bit of life around the place if you ask me.

    • Lou

      1 out of 5 stars. Go be a troll somewhere else.

      • local

        His comment was insensitive, but he has a point – cemeteries were once considered more “lively” places. People used to have weddings and picnics in cemeteries.

        • bob

          yeah but that was before bicyclists decided that the world needed paving.

          • local

            Wut?

          • CW

            No, he is right – cyclists were the first advocates for paved roads.

            http://www.bicyclelaw.com/road-rights/a.cfm/road-rights-first-there-was-the-bicycle

          • local

            I know, I mean wut does that have to do with this issue?

          • CW

            He’s just pointing out the fact that the world has changed a lot since the times when cemeteries were used for recreation and that thusly, according to his logic, this past precedent of activity is invalid to use in a modern context.

  • TGEoA

    Why do cemeteries have gates around them?

    • bob

      To keep out bikes, duh!

    • ZombieHero

      Because people are dying to get in! 😉

  • South Arlington

    I think there are a lot of curmudgeons here that just hate bikes. The whole point of the article was that the Wright Gate closure limits routes those of us that commute to work through Fort Myer into downtown use. Hopefully all of the bike haters will be pleased when the bike commuters now use Wilson Blvd or Columbia Pike or sharrowed roads to get home now instead of the paths and roads that are not currently utilized by anyone but Fort Myer base personnel vehicles. If your goal is to avoid bicyclists, opposing opening up an access road on the edge of the cemetary, that is already used for downhill bike traffic, to uphill traffic is probably the wrong way to do it.

    I doubt any action will be taken on this by Fort Myer or ANC, so I’ll look forward to riding up Wilson Blvd. at 10 mph with all of you motorists for a couple months!

    • CW

      +1. And I’ll ride in the traffic lane, because it’s my right. And extra slowly too.

    • bob

      Nothing like a sanctimonious bicyclist to start off Lent.

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