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Greene Turtle Granted Entertainment Permit

by ARLnow.com September 20, 2012 at 9:35 am 3,693 52 Comments

The Greene Turtle at 900 N. Glebe Road in Ballston has been granted a live entertainment permit.

The Arlington County Board voted unanimously Tuesday night to grant the permit, which will allow the Greene Turtle to host bands and DJs inside the restaurant. Live entertainment will be permitted between 5:00 p.m. and midnight Sunday-Wednesday, and from 5:00 p.m. to 1:30 a.m. Thursday-Saturday and on certain holidays, like Cinco de Mayo, Halloween and St. Patrick’s Day.

Initially, the Greene Turtle also requested live entertainment outside on its patio, but dropped the request after encountering neighborhood opposition. Before Tuesday’s vote, representatives from the restaurant noted that the music from inside will not be broadcast outside by way of speakers, another neighborhood concern.

Two neighbors from the Continental at Ballston condominium building — located across Glebe Road, about 275 feet away from the restaurant — expressed concern about noise coming from live music inside the glass-enclosed restaurant. They requested the item be pulled from the County Board’s consent agenda on Saturday so that it could be discussed on Tuesday, but in the end did not attend the meeting.

During the Board discussion, it was revealed that some outdoor noise comes from patrons cheering in response to cornhole games that are set up outside. That prompted Board member Libby Garvey to provide a bit of background about cornhole for her colleagues.

“Cornhole is very Midwestern,” she said. “It’s fun.”

The adjacent Bluemont Civic Association has asked the Greene Turtle to move its outdoor seating area closer to Glebe Road, away from the neighborhood. Restaurant reps indicated that they were willing to do so — a move that would first require approval from county zoning officials — but the Board did not include any conditions about the patio in its vote.

The Greene Turtle opened in January on the ground floor of a new Virginia Tech research center.

  • TJ

    Now they just need that “live wait staff permit” and they’ll be all set.

    • WeiQiang


    • James Moron

      Amen. They have a like a shared hiring pool with BWW a few doors down. My perspective is that you ought to have either decent food or service but that whole block is 0 for 2.

      • Abe Froman

        Sing it brother!

        Ballston seems to have gotten the short end of the stick with the new places that have opened this year.

      • TJ

        I wasn’t even going to mention the food…it’s a bar, so those expectations should have been set before I walking in. But, I should expect good service for my crappy food.

  • MC 703

    A live band will be playing the “meetcha at the turtle” TV jingle til closing every night

  • Tomtom

    And a permit on how to cook good food + have staff that moves

  • BrianKal

    Never have I visited a more poorly managed restaurant in Virginia. Went once, food awful, service terrible. Will never go back

    • Ballston

      Seriously. I went three times in the first few months after it opened. Each time I figured oh they were new, they’ll have the kinks worked out by now. Each time was a huge wait for bad food and waitstaff that seem to care more about talking to each other than about helping customers. I don’t imagine this place will stay open very long.

    • Neumann

      I guess you have yet to visit BDubs just down the street. Worst service in America.

      • drax

        The food far exceeds the service in overall crappiness at BDubs. Even my wings were crap.

  • nunya

    corn hole sounds dirty.

    • NIMBY the Chicken

      They call it corn hole because of what happens to the losing team…

    • Dirk Digler

      It doesn’t have to be dirty if you wash thoroughly first.

  • Drunk_IrishChick

    What, no one loves $1.50 wings? that suck?

  • tumblebum

    Finally, a place to celebrate Cinco de Mayo with panache.

  • SteamboatWillie

    Cornhole is lame. All those adults who play the game and think it’s really AWESOME are even lamer.

    • JamesE

      I played it last weekend, come at me BRO

      • SteamboatWillie

        That made me LOLLER.

      • Regis

        It’s a full credit course at VPI, isn’t it?

        • JamesE

          senior year, engineering design.

    • Lawrence

      Hey, Peter! Watch out for your cornhole, bud.

      • NIMBY the Chicken

        Hey check out channel 9 man!

    • B22201

      It IS lame. . .

      Cornhole is horseshoes for the those with no skill, and easily injured.

  • Clarendon

    I love music, and I love music outside. But, when a place has music inside, it is nice to have a quiet place outside to go if you want to talk with someone. For that reason alone, I’m glad they aren’t going to do music outside at this place.


    No football to show on the tv when KNUCKLEHEAD Edsall is allowed to ruin Maryland football? FREDTERP

    • JamesE

      He’s back!! FREDTERP

    • Arlingtoon

      Welcome back, FREDTERP —

    • Tre

      Best news I’ve heard all morning… indeed welcome back! FREDTERP

      p.s. Now we just need to extricate Rosslynite from Donaldson Run

  • John Fontain

    cornhole (noun): a game played with others, ususally in a social setting, so that you don’t actually have to carry a conversation with them. also see: movie dates.

  • DCBuff

    Boy, is this a slow news day.

  • CW

    Surprised that no one has pointed out the fact that the place on the Pike has gotten denied for months and months because of the actions of past owners (and because of “concerns”) and yet this place gets expedited approval.

    • Ballston

      This is in the new Ballston entertainment area the county is trying to set up. Plus it’s a reputable chain that hasn’t had a history of people fighting inside.

      • CW

        Yes, but it’s somewhat unfair. Did the Greene Turtle have to show X number of months without police being called, “reach out to neighbors”, and jump through other hoops? Is it allowed to stay open until 2, unlike the place on the Pike? I don’t have a horse in the race and I’m starting to sound like one of the old curmudgeons around here, but it seems like they’re ruling with an iron fist.

        • Mildred Pierced

          Dude, North vs South you know who wins.

          • Stonewall Jackson

            The South shall rise ag…oh, wait, never mind.

  • BuzzkillBill

    Does Adam’s Corner have a permit to blast music to the street or do they just do it anyway? I guess the plan “If we put up Boston signs we’re at least guaranteed a bunch of Red Sox fans” didn’t work out, so now they’re going for1990’s dorm room by blaring dancehall through speakers aimed right at the sidewalk to create the illusion of some kind of scene.

    • Greg

      Talk about identity crisis.

      They’re a Red Sox bar, Jazz club, Hookah bar, and 1990s music bar all in one.

  • DLew On Roids

    I was in there a couple of weeks ago and was stunned at how loud the place is. I’ve spent more than my share of time in bars and clubs, and I’m not bothered by noise, but they seemed to have the TV feed turned all the way up to 11 for college football. You had to yell for the people on the other side of the table to hear you. The whole thing was so…weird.

    • Nigel

      Wait – they have music that goes to . . . 11?

  • ARLrez

    “I love the Green Turtle,” said no one, ever.

  • Mary-Austin

    Green Turtle sux…World of Beer is way better.

    • JohnB2

      WoB has turned into Clarendon West, or maybe A-Town West. Total bros and hoes (brahs and bras?) on weekend nights. During the week it’s not so bad.

      • Mary-Austin

        Oh I bet…I usually stick to happy hour there.

      • JamesE

        extremely slow service as well, but it was a Friday night so I let it slide.

  • Greg

    2 problems with Greene Turtle

    1) their management is used to being in places with lower expectations of service and food quality — not always, but usually (Laurel, Calvert County, Ocean City, Edgewater, Annapolis, Germantown, Hagerstown, LaPlata, Hampton, Leesburg, Sterling etc.) Closest thing they have to Arlington is DC and it’s connected to the Verizon Center.

    2) I went there on a Saturday night at 1 and there were literally 4 or 5 people in there. Meanwhile, WOB had a couple hundred.

    This place is going to fail.

    • CW

      It’s a Maryland-branded entity. Not likely to go over well.

  • John Andre

    Seems there have been problems with incidents at the original Greene Turtle…isn’t this part of the same chain???

    At any rate, it might be nice to have occasional swing dances in Ballston. I miss not being able to go to the Clarendon Ballroom on Tuesday nights and you can’t get home at a decent time from their new venue at the Carlyle Club in Alexandria. The Dance Factory has a few dances on weekends.

  • ArlDon

    What? Noone saw the irony that residents of Ballston…Ballston we are talking about here…complaining about noise across the street??? Uh…that IS Ballston…with high rises so close you can see well into the other buildings’ units. Love it.

  • novasteve

    Why doe GT get it but not that place on Columbia pike?

    • Quoth the Raven

      I believe the Columbia Pike place used to have such a permit, and there were multiple problems involving noise, crime, etc. I’m betting the owner hasn’t done much to assuage fears that the same thing will happen again.

  • This place is the worst thing to happen to our neighborhood. Loud obnoxious people running everywhere. I hope it goes under.


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